Bee protection or not
Bienenschutz oder doch nicht
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http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
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http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
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http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
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Question number four to Migros:
Why is the current status of the promise to Noah not set straight, since it is demonstrably false?
With a polite request for an answer
greetings from the stubborn end consumer ?
Guest
Question number four to Migros:
Why is the current status of the promise to Noah not set straight, since it is demonstrably false?
With a polite request for an answer
greetings from the stubborn end consumer ?
Yes, please finally an answer.
And, Greenpeace has just sent out mail proudly advertising that they have persuaded retailers to remove bee-endangering products from their range in 2015. That's not true...
Guest
Interestingly, the Noa is suddenly no longer there: http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/unsere-versprechen/versprechen-filter/versprechen-konsum/bienen.html
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Hello
I had already suspected something like this when I wrote my post on April 18 at 5:42 pm. That's why I copied the picture with the boy and the promise from the website and inserted it back into the post as a picture. Just as a precautionary measure, so that the text doesn't change in the slightest, after Tanja had previously claimed that Migros had promised something completely different. :-)
Nevertheless, I take the deactivation of the bee page as a good sign. Presumably Migros is fed up with the fact that someone is constantly trying to sell them falsehoods. I'm sure the site will soon be corrected and back online, anything else would be a very bad move.
Do any of you still have a Migros shopping bag with the bee promise printed on it? Unfortunately, I only have one with the promise to Manon, according to which Migros promises to invest a billion francs in leisure, education and culture by 2020.
Greetings from the Migi piglet
Guest
The manufacturer itself advertises similar products containing the same active ingredient as having a good long-term effect and a longer duration of action. In purely legal terms, harmless to bees does not mean that no bees have to die from it, but simply that a certain number must not be exceeded. If the product is used in the evening after the bee flight and not after 11 p.m., the mortality rate has not been exceeded in tests!"The active ingredient lambda-cyhalothrin (synthetically produced pyrethrin), as contained in various products for professional horticulture, is toxic to bees. As the active ingredient adheres well to the plant, bees can absorb the substance even days after application." http://www.garten.ch/keyword/lambda-cyhalothrin "Lambda-cyhalothrinhas been detected in bees and plants since 1998 with an upward trend."http://www.jki.bund.de/fileadmin/dam_uploads/_A/Bienen/Biologische%20und%20chemische%20Untersuchungen%20an%20Bienen_JB.pdfDasMigros says:"All products that have been delivered from the distribution centers to the stores since the end of 2014 no longer contain any bee-critical active ingredients."
Huh?!
Guest
@Tanja_Migros is that the answer? ? ? ? ? ?
I find it impossible and cowardly, to say the least, to let the promise simply disappear! How big is your carpet, what else fits under it?
On the following page
http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/aktuelles/controlling2015.html
I found 5 "kept" promises, but ONE of them cannot be clicked on, guess WHICH one!
For me, Migros has lost all credibility at the moment!
Guest
After the site was taken offline, I immediately contacted the M-Infoline to find out why. The employee wanted to get to the bottom of the matter and sent me the following reply today:
(...)
Thank you for contacting us by telephone. We are happy to respond
No, the bee promise "We promise Noah that from the end of 2014 we will only offer insecticides and pesticides that do not endanger bees." Migros has successfully kept its promise.
The promise is based on a study http://www.greenpeace.org/switzerland/Global/switzerland/publications/Greenpeace/2013/agriculture/Bienenreport.pdf by Greenpeace, which identified substances that are critical for bees. Migros originally carried 10 products containing these substances. These products were removed from the range within the promised period or the formulation was revised.
The Swiss Commission for Fair Trading (SLK) has drawn our attention to the fact that, in its opinion, the information on the promise on our website is misleading. Migros has taken note of this, is therefore currently reviewing its communication and has removed the offending passages from the website as a precautionary measure. They will be revised and relaunched when the website is redesigned in the fall.
We hope you find our explanation plausible and wish you a good week.
Kind regards
(...)
Customer advisor M-Infoline
Migros-Genossenschafts-Bund
Economic Policy Directorate
M-Infoline
Limmatstrasse 152
P.O. Box 1766
CH-8031 Zurich
Guest
Thank you Migroleum, this is the answer I expected from the Migipedia staff. It's a good thing that SLK exists and that Migros is now reviewing its communication!
It seems to me that Migipedia still needs to learn how to answer critical questions ?
Hello everyone.
We are also happy to answer critical questions @endverbraucherin. But of course, you can always learn something new!
As is often the case with sustainability issues, the clarifications were complex and therefore took time. Thanks to @M-Infolineforforwarding the answer so quickly and thanks also to @deactivated userfor sharing it here.
Best regards,
Daniel
Yes, please finally an answer.
And, Greenpeace has just sent out mail proudly advertising that they have persuaded retailers to remove bee-endangering products from their range in 2015. That's not true...
Guest
Interestingly, the Noa is suddenly no longer there: http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/unsere-versprechen/versprechen-filter/versprechen-konsum/bienen.html
Guest
Hello
I had already suspected something like this when I wrote my post on April 18 at 5:42 pm. That's why I copied the picture with the boy and the promise from the website and inserted it back into the post as a picture. Just as a precautionary measure, so that the text doesn't change in the slightest, after Tanja had previously claimed that Migros had promised something completely different. :-)
Nevertheless, I take the deactivation of the bee page as a good sign. Presumably Migros is fed up with the fact that someone is constantly trying to sell them falsehoods. I'm sure the site will soon be corrected and back online, anything else would be a very bad move.
Do any of you still have a Migros shopping bag with the bee promise printed on it? Unfortunately, I only have one with the promise to Manon, according to which Migros promises to invest a billion francs in leisure, education and culture by 2020.
Greetings from the Migi piglet
Guest
The manufacturer itself advertises similar products containing the same active ingredient as having a good long-term effect and a longer duration of action. In purely legal terms, harmless to bees does not mean that no bees have to die from it, but simply that a certain number must not be exceeded. If the product is used in the evening after the bee flight and not after 11 p.m., the mortality rate has not been exceeded in tests!"The active ingredient lambda-cyhalothrin (synthetically produced pyrethrin), as contained in various products for professional horticulture, is toxic to bees. As the active ingredient adheres well to the plant, bees can absorb the substance even days after application." http://www.garten.ch/keyword/lambda-cyhalothrin "Lambda-cyhalothrinhas been detected in bees and plants since 1998 with an upward trend."http://www.jki.bund.de/fileadmin/dam_uploads/_A/Bienen/Biologische%20und%20chemische%20Untersuchungen%20an%20Bienen_JB.pdfDasMigros says:"All products that have been delivered from the distribution centers to the stores since the end of 2014 no longer contain any bee-critical active ingredients."
Huh?!
Guest
@Tanja_Migros is that the answer? ? ? ? ? ?
I find it impossible and cowardly, to say the least, to let the promise simply disappear! How big is your carpet, what else fits under it?
On the following page
http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/aktuelles/controlling2015.html
I found 5 "kept" promises, but ONE of them cannot be clicked on, guess WHICH one!
For me, Migros has lost all credibility at the moment!
Guest
After the site was taken offline, I immediately contacted the M-Infoline to find out why. The employee wanted to get to the bottom of the matter and sent me the following reply today:
(...)
Thank you for contacting us by telephone. We are happy to respond
No, the bee promise "We promise Noah that from the end of 2014 we will only offer insecticides and pesticides that do not endanger bees." Migros has successfully kept its promise.
The promise is based on a study http://www.greenpeace.org/switzerland/Global/switzerland/publications/Greenpeace/2013/agriculture/Bienenreport.pdf by Greenpeace, which identified substances that are critical for bees. Migros originally carried 10 products containing these substances. These products were removed from the range within the promised period or the formulation was revised.
The Swiss Commission for Fair Trading (SLK) has drawn our attention to the fact that, in its opinion, the information on the promise on our website is misleading. Migros has taken note of this, is therefore currently reviewing its communication and has removed the offending passages from the website as a precautionary measure. They will be revised and relaunched when the website is redesigned in the fall.
We hope you find our explanation plausible and wish you a good week.
Kind regards
(...)
Customer advisor M-Infoline
Migros-Genossenschafts-Bund
Economic Policy Directorate
M-Infoline
Limmatstrasse 152
P.O. Box 1766
CH-8031 Zurich
Guest
Thank you Migroleum, this is the answer I expected from the Migipedia staff. It's a good thing that SLK exists and that Migros is now reviewing its communication!
It seems to me that Migipedia still needs to learn how to answer critical questions ?
Hello everyone.
We are also happy to answer critical questions @endverbraucherin. But of course, you can always learn something new!
As is often the case with sustainability issues, the clarifications were complex and therefore took time. Thanks to @M-Infolineforforwarding the answer so quickly and thanks also to @deactivated userfor sharing it here.
Best regards,
Daniel
