Bee protection or not
Bienenschutz oder doch nicht
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9 years ago
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http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
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9 years ago
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http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
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Declarable substances
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9 years ago
Hello
A label depicting lush green plants and beautiful full blossoms, in fact the "ideal world", has a tempting, even seductive effect on many people. The stupid don't care if the bottle contains a little Seveso or a mini Chernobyl.
As long as the big letters on the front contain a lie, real shielded citizens will pay almost any price for dirt, because they don't care about the small print. It is a lie because there is no such thing as a safe broad-spectrum insecticide. Only very stupid and masochistic suicides can buy something like that. How stupid do you have to be to buy such garbage, given the hazard and safety warnings? Reading this makes me feel sick and hey, I'm a piglet, I know my way around dirt. :-)
You don't have to fight nature, you have to use it. Many plants can be protected with mixed cultures. Beans can be planted with savory against the bean aphid, roses with lavender against the aphid. Nasturtium is used under fruit trees and berry bushes against aphids, slugs and caterpillars, and a broth of horsetail or horseradish tea helps against scab. Nematodes or BT help against imported pests such as the box tree moth, and snails can be caught alive. It is also a good and sustainable idea to provide a cat-proof home for native wild birds in the garden, as they eat many pests.
Thousands of such biological solutions can be found in many gardening books. Some can also be found on the internet, but of course this is only useful for those who can read and think.
Unfortunately, many consumers are too lazy to read and therefore remain stupid. They want soy milk, cane sugar, coconut oil and sausages from tofu pigs because it says "vegan", "organic" or "fair". But they don't have the slightest grasp of the ecological disaster associated with their demand. It's the same with the pest spray. Something has to be found that kills the pesky nature immediately and is easy to hide so that you can show off to the neighbors with a green thumb. Appearance is more important than reality - if you shine a flashlight into people's mouths, their eyes light up like headlights.
Retailers take advantage of this behavior. Migros uses such products to turn the stupidity and laziness of its customers into cash. Is that immoral? Perhaps, but it's the people's own fault, because they have chosen not to think for themselves, to pay a lot of money for nonsense and to be thought stupid by a little yellow piglet.
Greetings from the Migi piglet
who appreciates his marigolds for many reasons.
9 years ago
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Dear @Tanja_Migros
I asked Greenpeace Switzerland about this list, with which Migros justifies the Generation M promise, here is the answer from Greenpeace Switzerland:
"The substanceLambda-cyhalothrin is indeed hazardous to bees, but this knowledge did not exist when the bee reports (e.g. Bye-bye bee) were compiled. This is a fundamental problem with "blacklists", as knowledge is constantly evolving and there is a risk that dangerous substances will be replaced by others that later also prove to be dangerous. For this reason, we advocate a significant reduction in the overall use of pesticides and call for a complete ban on synthetic chemical pesticides in private use,although a new "blacklist" of pesticides is currently being drawn up, which includes the most critical pesticides according to current knowledge.I hope that Migros will now take action and immediately withdraw these or all pesticides containing substances that are harmful to bees from the market:Mioplant, spray against pests, 500 ml,
http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/alaxon-spray--500-ml/pp.658410600000
http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/kendo-spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658405400000UndI hope that by then Migros will no longer be advertising Generation M bee protection:http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/unsere-versprechen/versprechen-filter/versprechen-konsum/bienen.htmlGrussLoxiran
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9 years ago
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Hello @Tanja_Migros
Have the products in question already been removed from the range or not yet? If not, how long do you intend to wait? Will you have to withdraw the promise to protect bees after all?
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9 years ago
Hello everyone
Please excuse me, my clarifications took a little longer because the people responsible and I were not always available at the same time.
Migros is committed to environmentally conscious gardening and is helping to ensure that fewer chemicals are used in hobby gardening. As part of Generation M, Migros is therefore promising to double the proportion of organic fertilizers, soils and pesticides by 2020 and is focusing on this area accordingly. Migros offers a wide range of organic aids under the "Migros Bio Garden" label. Today, it already has 47 products in its range, ranging from organic fertilizers and soils to plant protection products. All products comply with strict guidelines that Migros has developed together with the Research Institute of Organic Agriculture (FiBL) and which go far beyond the legal requirements. For example, no chemical-synthetic additives may be used, transport routes must be as short as possible and the ingredients should come from Switzerland wherever possible. From today's perspective, however, we do not yet see ourselves phasing out chemical-synthetic pesticides completely. We want to give our customers a choice, because not all application options are available organically. However, we offer an organic/natural alternative wherever possible so that customers can make a choice. Nevertheless, Migros regularly reviews its product range and takes action if findings indicate that certain active ingredients can harm people and the environment. Migros was the first retailer in Switzerland to react to this in 2014 and promised Generation M that it would only offer insecticides and plant protection products that do not contain any of the active ingredients criticised by Greenpeace in the Bye Bye Bees report and do not endanger bees. We therefore switched our own-brand herbicides under the Mioplant brand to the active ingredient pelargonic acid a year earlier. This active ingredient is biodegradable and therefore gentler on the environment and people. In 2015, we also removed the last two third-party brand products from our range and replaced them with existing products. As you can see, we are constantly working on improvements. However, this takes time. Kind regards Tanja
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9 years ago
Hello
Migros was the first retailer in Switzerland to react in 2014 and promised Generation M that it would only offer insecticides and pesticides that do not contain any of the active ingredients criticized by Greenpeace in the Bye Bye Bees report and do not endanger bees. WRONG!
Migros has literally promised Noah:
We will only offer insecticides and pesticides that do not endanger bees.
The promise did not contain any restrictions regarding Greenpeace, the Bee Report or exactly which substances should be avoided. This means that the promise will not be fulfilled until Migros no longer offers products that contain any substances harmful to bees.
You can read more at
http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/unsere-versprechen/versprechen-filter/versprechen-konsum/bienen.html
From today's perspective, however, we do not yet see ourselves phasing out synthetic chemical pesticides completely. We want to give our customers a choice, because not all application options are available organically. Is that so? In which cases are organic products lacking where synthetic chemical products are absolutely necessary?
I have never used, applied or sprayed synthetic agents in my garden. The possibilities that nature itself offers have always been enough for me, so I would be curious to know what I might have done wrong.
Curious greetings from the Migi piglet
Guest
9 years ago
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A burning hot topic. Bees are irreplaceable and promises are not always kept. Some promises are made for reasons of prestige, in the firm belief that they will be forgotten after a while. Dear M Generation leaders, consumers are no longer as obedient to authority as they used to be! Promises that are not kept leave a stale taste and cause doubts to grow. Please keep your promises!
We also started gardening last year and made ourselves smart in advance, what with what, what against what etc. It was a real treasure trove of knowledge. As Migi-Ferkel says, nature gives us a challenge.
THE GOAL WAS MISSED, THE PROMISE WAS NOT KEPT!
9 years ago
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The "Generation M" campaign is also criticized by the Network for Sustainable Communication:
Points are deducted for the lack of willingness to engage in dialog
Campaign check #30: Generation M
The network for sustainable communication, Green Responsibility, awards the "Generation M" campaign three out of five megaphones. Points are deducted for the lack of willingness to engage in dialog and for the sometimes very vaguely formulated plans. In principle, the idea of communicating sustainable goals publicly and transparently to the outside world is worthy of support. However, an authentic CSR policy can and will only succeed if stakeholders are involved in the developments.
Source:
http://www.green-responsibility.de/kampagnencheck-30-generation-m/
According to link:
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9 years ago
Sometimes I almost burst my bubble!
As has already been noted, Generation M did not explicitly refer to the Greenpeace report "bye bye bees" in this promise, but to Greenpeace in general. Now that Greenpeace has found even more harmful substances through further investigations, Migros no longer wants to know anything about it.
Some excerpts from Migros' public code of conduct:
The focus today is still on being credible because we are responsible in all our actions and comply with the law in all situations. Based on these values, this Code of Conduct sets out the eleven most important rules of conduct that we follow as employees of the Migros Group. It serves as an orientation aid and as a concrete guide to action.
We gain the trust of our customers through the quality and safety of our products and services. We therefore make no compromises in this respect. We respond to defects immediately and appropriately.
We are honest. We mean what we say. And we are reliable because we stand by our word. We always check, and have people check, whether we actually do what we say we will do.
Well, as it turns out, the promise to Noah was not kept!
The imprint lists those responsible for the content of the Migros website.
Imprint Migros-Genossenschafts-Bund Limmatstrasse 152 CH-8031 Zurich
Overall responsibility Monica Glisenti, Head of Corporate Communications
Ms. Glisenti, please adjust the controlling immediately.
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9 years ago
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As such products are subject to authorization, it was clear from the outset that the new products were also classified as hazardous to bees!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.blw.admin.ch/psm/produkte/index.html?lang=de&item=258
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9 years ago
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Migros sells a "bee-friendly" rapeseed oil from the region:TerraSuisse Swiss rapeseed oil
2.65 instead of 3.35
50 cl, offer only valid from 24.05. to 30.05.2016, while stocks last.
"IP-SUISSE rapeseed oil comes exclusively from Swiss production, is organically produced, gently pressed and filtered without additives. Any use of chemical substances in cultivation is prohibited."https://www.ipsuisse.ch/Web/Raps_id117