Bee protection or not

Bienenschutz oder doch nicht

Guest

9 years ago

Edited

http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000

Supplementary information

SP1 Do not allow product and/or its container to enter bodies of water.
SPE8 Hazardous to bees / To protect bees and other pollinating insects, do not apply to flowering crops / Do not apply where bees are actively foraging / Hives must be removed or covered during application and for (specify time) after treatment / Do not apply in the presence of flowering weeds / Weeds must be removed before flowering / Do not apply before (specify time).
BGEF_EUH401 To avoid risks to humans and the environment, follow the instructions for use.

Declarable substances

Lambda-cyhalothrin 0.015 g/l

(Machine translation)

All replies (125)

Loxiran

9 years ago

I would prefer Neudorff products. These are also available in Migros:
http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/search/?fh_search=neudorff

http://www.neudorff.de/fileadmin/medien/neudorff.de/Pressetexte/Bienen_sch%C3%BCtzen_140710.pdf

"For hobby gardeners, Neudorff is inextricably linked with natural, bee-friendly plant protection products."

or buy garden products with an organic label:
http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/search/?fh_search=bio+garden

In my opinion, everything else does not belong in the product range.

(Machine translation)

Guest

9 years ago

Edited

Not planning to buy it. Just wondering what Noah thinks of it.

(Machine translation)

Guest

9 years ago

Hello

Chemical pesticides have no place in hobby gardening. You can do everything without chemicals, but not necessarily without literature. If gardening is a hobby, then you should take the time to learn how to control pests naturally. Either by mixing the plants so that they protect each other or with homemade sprays. For example, you can harvest nettles at the edge of the forest and use them to make a slurry or broth, which can be bottled or canned after sufficient fermentation. Depending on its strength, it can be used as a fertilizer or as a pesticide against pests. The same applies to a variety of other plants that you can cultivate yourself or find for free in nature.

You don't need slug pellets to protect vegetables or flowers either, there are much better and more tolerable means. The best thing would be a hedgehog, but they will avoid a chemical garden - hedgehogs are clever fellows, just like piglets. :-)

Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet

(Machine translation)

Loxiran

9 years ago

Yes, that is very strange. Why is this spray

http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000

still be sold in Migros?

According to Generation-M, the promise was already fulfilled at the end of 2014. Now we see that it was not fulfilled after all and Migros is still selling this spray: article number
658408200000, declaration: SPE8 Dangerous to bees,
still offers substances that are hazardous to bees.

Here is the link to Generation M:

http://generation-m.migros.ch/generation-m/de/nachhaltigkeit-bei-der-migros/unsere-versprechen/versprechen-filter/versprechen-konsum/bienen.html

Current status of the promiseA study by Greenpeace has identified substances that are critical for bees. Migros originally carried 10 products containing these substances. By the end of 2014, 9 products had been completely liquidated or converted. Remaining stocks of the remaining product are currently still in the stores. All products that have been delivered from the distribution centers to the stores since the end of 2014 no longer contain any bee-critical active ingredients.
31.12.2014

(Machine translation)

Guest

9 years ago

I am also interested in Migros' answer. However, in the case of the sugar reductions in the yoghurts, they were unable to prove which yoghurts this was supposedly the case with.

(Machine translation)

Guest

9 years ago

Hello everyone

The Generation M promise refers to the active ingredients that have been classified by Greenpeace as hazardous to bees. The active ingredient mentioned below was not listed there, which is why we still carry this product in our range.

Kind regards
Tanja

(Machine translation)

Guest

9 years ago

Edited

Hello @Tanja_Migros

However, I don't notice that only the substances banned by law are meant, but all substances that are dangerous for bees:

All products that have been newly delivered from the distribution centers to the stores since the end of 2014 no longer contain any active ingredients that are critical for bees.

This is what Greenpeace says:

The following six active ingredients approved in the EU have the highest number of very hazardous properties (seven and six properties respectively): lambda-cyhalothrin, fenamiphos, chlorpyrifos, cyfluthrin, ethoprophos and formetanate.Source: Greenpeace

Let's take a look at the list of pesticides (as of 03.03.2016):

Trade name: MIOPLANT spray against pests

Product categoryAuthorization holderFederal authorization number
InsecticideSyngenta Agro AGW-6741-2
Substance(s)ContentFormulation code
Active substance: Lambda-cyhalothrin0.0015 % 0.015 g/lME Microemulsion

Conditions and remarks:

Only in the home garden.
SPe 8 - Dangerous to bees: May only come into contact with flowering plants or plants with honeydew (e.g. crops, sown seeds, weeds, neighboring crops, hedges) in the evening, outside of the bee flight, or only be used in closed greenhouses if no pollinators are present.
Spe 3: To protect aquatic organisms, it must be ensured that no spray mist enters surface waters during application.
A maximum of 2 treatments per crop with this product or another product containing this active ingredient.
Treatments at intervals of 7 - 14 days.
Treatments only during the flight (according to critical catch number) at intervals of at least 7 days.
Maximum 3 treatments per crop with this product or another product containing this active ingredient.
Maximum 1 treatment per crop with this product or another product containing this active ingredient.
Treatments at least 7 days apart.
Maximum 2 treatments per plot per year with this product or another product containing this active ingredient.
SPa 1: To avoid the development of resistance, this or any other plant protection product containing a pyrethroid must not be applied more than once per crop.
Repeat application after 7 days if necessary.

Hazard labels:

Keep out of the reach of children.
EUH 208 Contains [name of sensitizing substance]. May cause an allergic reaction.
EUH 401 To avoid risks to human health and the environment, comply with the instructions for use.
H411 Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.
SP 1 Do not allow product and/or its container to enter waterways.
SPe 8 Hazardous to bees

Hazard symbols and designations:
Short labelingGHS09
Symbol
Hazard designationHazardous to the aquatic environment

For me, the case is clear: Migros wants the best possible image, regardless of what happens to the bees!

(Machine translation)

Loxiran

9 years ago

Edited

Hello @Tanja_Migros

The following reasons make me doubt the Generation M promise, according to the Beobachter article:
http://www.beobachter.ch/natur/flora-fauna/arten-tierschutz/artikel/migros_leeres-versprechen-in-sachen-bienenschutz/

Migros empty promise in terms of bee protection
beobachter.tiff

As mentioned, the Mioplant spray against pests contains:

Lambda-Cyhalothrin 0.015 g/l

According to: http://www.pan-germany.org/download/Big3_DE.pdf

Lambda-cyhalothrin is very toxic when inhaled, is highly dangerous for bees and is suspected of affecting the hormone system.

I also found a more recent list, October 2015, from Greenpeace, in which lambda-cyhalothrin, according to the TLI pesticide database, is classified with the highest rating of 10, toxicity to bees:

http://www.greenpeace.org/switzerland/Global/switzerland/publications/Greenpeace/2015/F4L/apple_testing_15_10.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-13,843

Assessment: Lambda-cyhalothrin
According to TLI pesticide database. Toxicity is rated on a 5-point scale, the highest rating is 10.

Toxicity to bees and other beneficial insects:

bienen nutzinsekten.jpg

Toxicity to aquatic organisms:

Potential for bioaccumulation:

I very much hope that Migros will remove this product from its range:

Mioplant, spray against pests, 500 ml,
http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658408200000
CHF 9.95, article number 658408200000
Declarable substances in this product

Lambda-cyhalothrin 0.015 g/l

(Machine translation)

Guest

9 years ago

Even more harmful products from Migros:

http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/alaxon-spray--500-ml/pp.658410600000

http://www.doitgarden.ch/de/garten/pflanzenpflege/pflanzenschutzmittel/kendo-spray-gegen-schaedlinge--500-ml/pp.658405400000

(Machine translation)

Alteshaus

9 years ago

Exactly. I can confirm that. I have a small cooperative garden where I have been growing vegetables and berries for years and I have 2 plum trees. I don't use any pesticides at all. Never. But a few neighbors of mine scatter these blue slug pellets en masse and buy such sprays, thus harming me and my garden and its inhabitants without being asked. Even when I ask them about it. Because they trust that if it were harmful, they wouldn't be able to buy it. It's clear that not everyone can and wants to be critical and deal with something like this in their free time.
It's so disappointing that you can't rely on the major distributors and manufacturers to finally take responsibility for no longer offering and producing harmful products for private use.

(Machine translation)

1 2 3 4 5...13