Just found out that Migros aka Globus still sells foie gras.
So I'm saying goodbye to Migros. I'll be shopping at Coop again from now on. They are making better progress in animal welfare, environmental protection and fair trade than you are. What's more, they have a larger selection of organic fruit and vegetables.
With family (and friends who always go with me), that's only a few thousand francs a month. But maybe more will follow suit and at some point it will reach the moneybags in your carpet floors. Migros hasn't been what it was for a long time. It has completely succumbed to predatory capitalism and only cash counts. Everything else is a whitewash.
I would bet that the good old activist Gottlieb would turn in his grave if he saw what his heirs had done with his life's work.
I'll check in every two years to see if you're still worshipping golden calves. In the meantime, I wish you all the best!
Bye bye
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You can read about it here:
http://www.watson.ch/!191692281
I haven't eaten out for 20 years or more. Because I don't want to support all this cruelty to animals.
Guest
Hello
You're right, torturing geese really isn't necessary. Shame on Migros for this mess!
@Storm
But if you "don't want to support the WHOLE cruelty to animals", then you have to grow everything yourself or starve to death as an 0815 vegan. Because the soy song of praise from vegetarians and vegans is also just a mendacious excuse, because the stuff doesn't grow here. Seven times the area of rainforest in Switzerland has fallen victim to the soy belt in South America, where hundreds of species have probably been wiped out. On top of this, these massive monocultures are damaging the surviving flora and fauna. Everyone who buys or eats soy products is responsible for this. In addition, every container ship uses heavy oil, pollutes the air and water, and kills and tortures animals in the wild. It is the same with palm oil and cotton, for which EVERYONE is responsible or to blame.
However, we can no longer turn back the clock and must therefore try to minimize dirt, torture and death by preferring national or at least continental products. Europeans could largely do without food from other continents if they wanted to.
Greetings from the Migi piglet
who buys Italian rice, for example.
I prevent as much cruelty to animals and environmental degradation as possible.
I live vegan. And - just imagine - I grow most of our food myself. I've just been outside and enjoyed the growing beetroot and kohlrabi. But I'm not going to list everything else that's growing *g*
I find soy disgusting in terms of taste. I only use a little soy sauce occasionally.
As for your soy belt: 90% of the world's soy harvest is for animal fattening. The little organic that humans need directly (and not as animal feed) is mostly grown in Germany.
Instead of tofu (yuck), I prefer to make my own seitan from grain that I buy from the farmer in the neighborhood.
Wherever possible, I buy organic, regional, seasonal and Fairtrade produce and cover almost 100% of our food needs with this (and by growing it myself).
Oh yes: I never fly on vacation, I don't drive, I collect the garbage from sports and picnic idiots in the forest, I have almost no plastic in the house and so on and so forth.
Anything else?
Guest
Hello
Very nice Storm.
By the way, it was not my intention to attack you, it was just a very absolute sounding statement:
"I don't want to support the WHOLE cruelty to animals"
This is not possible for anyone, not even for you.
Vegan, organic, fair etc. is not the ultimate solution either, because fair coffee and fair fruit is still supplied by ships, just like the acerola contained in organic bread. Domestic ascorbic acid would also be the better, more environmentally friendly solution for organic bread.
Moreover, vegans also like to enjoy a beer, a glass of wine or fruit juice that has been clarified with animal products. Cereal muesli occasionally contains bugs and all chocolate contains animal hair, even if you can't see or taste it. :-) It can happen to anyone, even a vegan, that they find a worm when they bite into an apple. Of course, it is worse if you only find half a worm. A normal person usually feels sick, but a vegan has lost their ideals. :-)
It is also clear to me that convinced, almost devout vegans and vegans talk themselves up about soy. They have to, because otherwise they would have to doubt their own faith. The excuse of the little bit of soy is just right for people, otherwise they would have to starve. Unfortunately, this does not make the rabbit food faction any more credible. :-)
The WHOLE cruelty to animals cannot be avoided, at best we can try to minimize it by living consciously, and that is exactly what I wanted to say earlier.
Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet
who is just wondering why there is no mouse-flavored cat food.
P.S.: Owners of motorized road vehicles, including electric vehicles and wood gasifiers, are the only ones who pay taxes according to their environmental impact. In doing so, they create general prosperity, finance the entire infrastructure and enable the survival of those who reject it. Car drivers are therefore an essential prerequisite for the existence of roads, rails and trains. Vegetarians, vegans and grasshoppers of all kinds should always remember that they can only afford their affectation because others can and have achieved something. :-)
Guest
>I'd wager that good old activist Gottlieb would be turning in his grave,
>if he saw what his heirs had done with his life's work.
Hardly, because at that time people were much less upset about production methods, animal husbandry and transportation (if they were affordable). The whole organic, eco and vegan craze is a development of the last 20 years. Incidentally, this also shows that people no longer have any other problems. A very satisfying realization. First world problems.
I don't eat foie gras either (it's too expensive and I don't particularly like it), but it would never occur to me to want to forbid anyone from doing so. Or to enforce it indirectly by demanding that it should no longer be sold.
In France in particular, it is obviously appreciated by many, and has even been declared a national cultural heritage (which is why it can still be produced, despite EU animal protection laws).
n_bird
Your answer shows two typical things.
Firstly, how inconsiderate, selfish and lacking in empathy our species is towards everyone else.
Secondly, that too many people still haven't realized that it's about the bigger picture and not just about satisfying individual egos.
Humanity is currently producing the greatest extinction of species since the disappearance of the dinosaurs. To describe this extinction of species and destruction of biodiversity, and even the destruction of our own livelihoods, as a first-world problem is - to put it kindly - about the most short-sighted thing you can do. It demonstrates an ignorance of interrelationships that is exemplary of the current times, which are only interested in short-term, financially bearable solutions and always look to blame others so as not to have to rethink their own habits.
migi-ferkel :-)
I don't drink coffee and mostly eat local fruit, including some from my own garden. I haven't bought bread for over forty years. I don't particularly like it. I can easily make the little bit I need myself. I even grind my own flour from grain that I buy from the farmer next door. I've never drunk alcohol in my life and I've never liked fruit juices either. I prefer to eat the whole fruit. I don't eat cereal muesli either. Apart from a few oat flakes in the occasional summer Bircher muesli. I make my own chocolate 2-3 times a year from cocoa butter and cocoa that my sister brings me from the Andes, where she runs a few social projects and gets the stuff from the locals as a thank you.
I am agnostic. Religions are important to some people. Be it as a supporter of the svp, a Christian, a vegan-basher or a sports fanatic. There are people who need something like that to define themselves. I've never been one of them.
I became vegan for ethical reasons, primarily because of world hunger and planet protection. Consideration for animals is also important, of course. But I've never thought that someone is a bad person if they indulge in a piece of meat every now and then. It's all about quantity and origin. I even roast a piece of meat for my brother when he comes to visit. However, I know exactly where the meat comes from and that it is from an animal that has been kept decently and has not been kept and slaughtered under cruel conditions.
What I said about soy is not an excuse but a fact. Over 90% of the world's harvest ends up in animal fattening. The organic soy used for tofu and the like in German-speaking countries comes from domestic production. And I don't actually buy soy because I find it disgusting in taste.
The world and its inhabitants are sick when they call those who show consideration for others affected. But it is in keeping with the spirit of the times. Always diligently attacking those who might question your own lifestyle. Otherwise you would have to question your own actions and that is too exhausting and too dangerous. After all, it could lead to the realization that you have to give up some of the comforts and habits you have grown fond of.
Stop mirroring and have the courage to criticize your own life in the same way as those who are at least trying to do something! Everything else is just cowardly excuses.
Because if everyone lived like you, the world would have ended long ago. Don't pass the responsibility for this on to others like whining little children in a sandpit. Act like thinking beings instead of just instinct-driven egomaniacs and take responsibility for your own actions!
Before you can take the blinkers off a blind vegan basher, you would be more successful in talking the Pope out of the virgin birth. So I hereby take my leave of this thread of sandbox warriors *lol*
Get well soon and goodbye
Labeling animal cruelty as "First World Problems" and saying that people probably don't have any other problems is actually pretty sad...
What's next?
"I don't shoot elephants on safaris either (it would be far too dangerous), but it would never occur to me to want to forbid anyone from doing so. Or to try to enforce it indirectly by demanding that it be punished"?
Based on N_Vogel's signature alone, it wouldn't occur to me to have a discussion with him/her. It seems to me to be hopeless.
The fact is that Migros is still selling foie gras and this goes 180° against the Generation M promises. It stands in stark contrast to all the slogans that Migros is constantly spouting. The production of foie gras is barbaric and contemptuous of animals.
Why do the people responsible for such issues never come forward? If praise is expressed somewhere, a comment is immediately posted.