Dear Migros In my opinion, too much fruit and vegetables are still packaged in plastic - promotions such as the apricots or berries. Why can't we go back to cardboard baskets here? Thank you for a brief reply.
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Traberli
Quote: "Migros' well-known syrup bottles are now made from 100% recycled PET. This is the first time in Switzerland that the material cycle for PET bottles has been closed. This target is also to be achieved for mineral water by 2025. With immediate effect, mineral water bottles will consist of up to 60% recycled PET. This will save around 2,500 tonnes of new material every year." What is the argument against REUSABLE GLASS BOTTLES? The contents TASTE better in glass - and they do so SIGNIFICANTLY! Reusable glass is also possible for other contents: jam, syrup, mayo, mustard ........ many things are available in disposable glass or other packaging. The future would be: reusable!Migros would be in a much better position than everyone else. e.g. own brands in reusable packaging. M Budget, M Classic reusable and the "brands" would have to follow suit at some point and also offer reusable packaging. That would be a real step towards sustainability and something that "the others" don't have on their radar. They'll carry on like this until the customer goes on strike.
Hello @Traberli The following can be said about the environmental impact of the MW glass bottle. Glass production is of little relevance thanks to its repeated use. However, the heavy weight of the glass bottle means that distribution and return transport for washing, together with the washing process, contribute significantly to the environmental impact and the reusable bottle performs similarly to drinks cartons and plastic bottles. But yes, reusable bottles are a very big issue - for us too, of course. When it comes to tableware, Migros focuses on sensible reusable solutions. We are pleased to see that demand for reusable tableware is increasing and that we are therefore able to expand these ranges. Reusable variants also generate real ecological added value when they are actually used several times. Best regards, Sebastian
Sebastian_Migros
Hello @Traberli The following can be said about the environmental impact of the MW glass bottle. Glass production is of little relevance thanks to its repeated use. However, the heavy weight of the glass bottle means that distribution and return transport for washing, together with the washing process, contribute significantly to the environmental impact and the reusable bottle performs similarly to drinks cartons and plastic bottles. But yes, reusable bottles are a very big issue - for us too, of course. When it comes to tableware, Migros focuses on sensible reusable solutions. We are pleased to see that demand for reusable tableware is increasing and that we are therefore able to expand these ranges. Reusable variants also generate real ecological added value when they are actually used several times. Best regards, Sebastian
Well, it depends on which routes it takes. The refilling shouldn't be straight in China. I'm curious whether Corona will really change the long distances and more can be obtained from the region. But of course it will take a long time...
Supertrooper
Thank you very much for your answer, Sebastian! Have I understood correctly, does this mean that we can now dispose of the plastic vegetable trays with the PET bottles? What about the packaging materials from suppliers abroad? Sorry to insist ;-)
Hello @Supertrooper In Switzerland, a very high-quality cycle is practiced when recycling PET beverage bottles: New PET beverage bottles are made again from PET beverage bottles. This is a very sensitive cycle that must not be disturbed by foreign substances. For this reason, detergent, cleaning agent, oil, vinegar and cosmetics bottles as well as trays for meat and cold cuts etc. should not be disposed of at the PET collection point, even if they are made of PET. You can find more information on this in our recycling guide: https://generation-m.migros.ch/de/nachhaltig-leben/recycling-guide.html Best regards Sebastian
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Sebastian_Migros
Hello @Supertrooper In Switzerland, a very high-quality cycle is practiced when recycling PET beverage bottles: New PET beverage bottles are made again from PET beverage bottles. This is a very sensitive cycle that must not be disturbed by foreign substances. For this reason, detergent, cleaning agent, oil, vinegar and cosmetics bottles as well as trays for meat and cold cuts etc. should not be disposed of at the PET collection point, even if they are made of PET. You can find more information on this in our recycling guide: https://generation-m.migros.ch/de/nachhaltig-leben/recycling-guide.html Best regards Sebastian
I love shopping in Migros, but I would like bags made of organic plastic and biodegradable packaging for products where plastic is currently used, I do a raw food week every 2 months (due to the good experience after using https://beyonduality.com/de/rohkost-auswirkungen/, but I would also like to live as plastic-free as possible the rest of the time. Looking forward to a plastic-free future. Madlene
Guest
I love shopping in Migros, but I would like bags made of organic plastic and biodegradable packaging for products where plastic is currently used, I do a raw food week every 2 months (due to the good experience after using https://beyonduality.com/de/rohkost-auswirkungen/, but I would also like to live as plastic-free as possible the rest of the time. Looking forward to a plastic-free future. Madlene
Use a jute bag! Or a basket! And you can stick the stickers for vegetables on a piece of paper or buy: "Reusable vegetable bags" from Migros where you can stick the label for weight/price on the side! People have problems that they cause themselves really bad! But they don't even see essential problems because they are mentally far away from them! Really bad in part! It's just as limited as the vegans who cook in Teflon pans! GG
Sebastian_Migros
Hello @Supertrooper In Switzerland, a very high-quality cycle is practiced when recycling PET beverage bottles: New PET beverage bottles are made again from PET beverage bottles. This is a very sensitive cycle that must not be disturbed by foreign substances. For this reason, detergent, cleaning agent, oil, vinegar and cosmetics bottles as well as trays for meat and cold cuts etc. should not be disposed of at the PET collection point, even if they are made of PET. You can find more information on this in our recycling guide: https://generation-m.migros.ch/de/nachhaltig-leben/recycling-guide.html Best regards Sebastian
Traberli
I know this from Japanese development a good 10 years ago or so, let's see how effective and successful the implementation will be! There are also test projects to press the PET things into building blocks for construction etc. The conversion into raw material again is probably the most sensible and then produce degradable plastic from it! The environmental pollution is one thing, but there are always people behind it, locals as well as tourists! There are also incidents like this here, even if it's just crickets! You really have to play "police" and that's the hard part! Most people are just a bit of a joke! On the whole, it's more about certain foreign regions that have massive problems with it! Another point is simply the question for yourself, do you want to surround yourself privately with how much and which plastics? One aspect is also these plasticizers, toxins, etc. It is practical and sometimes necessary for many things! But it depends on what kind of plastic, polymer it is! People are also to blame, but so is industry! For both it is often too practical and you could use other products for some of them! Use less car > produce less oil > less 80% of the product which is sold as "plastic" and cheap! Vote for Switzerland's underground metro system for transportation and people! And then there's the energy issue, which wouldn't really be a problem either, but new technology can't be "expected" of people like this!
Guest
I love shopping in Migros, but I would like bags made of organic plastic and biodegradable packaging for products where plastic is currently used, I do a raw food week every 2 months (due to the good experience after using https://beyonduality.com/de/rohkost-auswirkungen/, but I would also like to live as plastic-free as possible the rest of the time. Looking forward to a plastic-free future. Madlene
Hi @Rohkostino The environmental impact of the production of bioplastics is generally much higher compared to conventional plastic: the cultivation of the raw materials for bioplastics - usually corn or sugar cane - generates much higher emissions due to the use of pesticides, fertilizers and irrigation (water consumption). The ecological balance is therefore worse than for conventional plastic. Almost more importantly, however, the cultivation of these raw materials competes with food production, which we consider irresponsible. Bioplastics also have nowhere near the same packaging properties as conventional plastic. For example, to achieve comparable tear resistance in a carrier bag, bioplastic bags need to be around 30% thicker than conventional plastic bags. Contrary to popular belief, many bioplastic packaging is not or only insufficiently biodegradable. If all these ecological disadvantages are taken into account, the environmental balance for bioplastics is negative. For this reason, Migros only uses bioplastics if they are actually more environmentally friendly than conventional plastic packaging. However, we are actively monitoring these developments at Migros. Best regards, Sebastian
Sebastian_Migros
Hi @Rohkostino The environmental impact of the production of bioplastics is generally much higher compared to conventional plastic: the cultivation of the raw materials for bioplastics - usually corn or sugar cane - generates much higher emissions due to the use of pesticides, fertilizers and irrigation (water consumption). The ecological balance is therefore worse than for conventional plastic. Almost more importantly, however, the cultivation of these raw materials competes with food production, which we consider irresponsible. Bioplastics also have nowhere near the same packaging properties as conventional plastic. For example, to achieve comparable tear resistance in a carrier bag, bioplastic bags need to be around 30% thicker than conventional plastic bags. Contrary to popular belief, many bioplastic packaging is not or only insufficiently biodegradable. If all these ecological disadvantages are taken into account, the environmental balance for bioplastics is negative. For this reason, Migros only uses bioplastics if they are actually more environmentally friendly than conventional plastic packaging. However, we are actively monitoring these developments at Migros. Best regards, Sebastian
If I understand correctly. Is that normal PET in my link, but if it's special, you just switch? Nestlé wants to be part of it, you write, so it would also appear in Switzerland. I'm curious. The bottles would have to be collected separately? Read the link above.
Sonarius
I know this from Japanese development a good 10 years ago or so, let's see how effective and successful the implementation will be! There are also test projects to press the PET things into building blocks for construction etc. The conversion into raw material again is probably the most sensible and then produce degradable plastic from it! The environmental pollution is one thing, but there are always people behind it, locals as well as tourists! There are also incidents like this here, even if it's just crickets! You really have to play "police" and that's the hard part! Most people are just a bit of a joke! On the whole, it's more about certain foreign regions that have massive problems with it! Another point is simply the question for yourself, do you want to surround yourself privately with how much and which plastics? One aspect is also these plasticizers, toxins, etc. It is practical and sometimes necessary for many things! But it depends on what kind of plastic, polymer it is! People are also to blame, but so is industry! For both it is often too practical and you could use other products for some of them! Use less car > produce less oil > less 80% of the product which is sold as "plastic" and cheap! Vote for Switzerland's underground metro system for transportation and people! And then there's the energy issue, which wouldn't really be a problem either, but new technology can't be "expected" of people like this!
A lot is happening right now. Wait a while and then there will be a lot of cars with fuel cells. They are relying on hydrogen... Methane would be an even better solution, but they seem to want hydrogen. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nzzas.nzz.ch/amp/wirtschaft/auto-mit-methangas-faehrt-sogar-elektroauto-davon-ld.1449225