Dear Migros In my opinion, too much fruit and vegetables are still packaged in plastic - promotions such as the apricots or berries. Why can't we go back to cardboard baskets here? Thank you for a brief reply.
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Plastic has its reasons, such as hygiene, with a plastic protective film without holes in it, protective gas may still be used (for the fresh and or tires). Some plastic may also have an effect on light protection, and you should also bear in mind that plastic is important to keep your bin bag full! A full bin liner is fuel, which in turn generates energy for district heating during incineration. The cycle was designed in this way. Offering certain products openly is problematic as customers often do not handle the goods in an advantageous way. With open goods, for example, there are these reusable mesh bags.
Hi @Supertrooper Migros is constantly reviewing where it can save packaging material and optimize existing packaging from an ecological perspective. Since 2011, over 10,000 tons of packaging material have been optimized. This corresponds to around 10% of the annual amount of packaging material used for Migros' own brands. Several experts are working at Migros every day to test forward-looking materials. We are currently following developments in organic waste. As Migros manufactures over 80 percent of its products itself, we have the opportunity to approach the industry directly. Best regards, Sebastian
You could, for example, also use cardboard at the bottom and plastic film on top (for hygiene reasons); there really shouldn't be any plastic at the bottom either.
Sonarius
Plastic has its reasons, such as hygiene, with a plastic protective film without holes in it, protective gas may still be used (for the fresh and or tires). Some plastic may also have an effect on light protection, and you should also bear in mind that plastic is important to keep your bin bag full! A full bin liner is fuel, which in turn generates energy for district heating during incineration. The cycle was designed in this way. Offering certain products openly is problematic as customers often do not handle the goods in an advantageous way. With open goods, for example, there are these reusable mesh bags.
Thanks for your input... that the bin liner is getting full - sorry, pretty banal, because I have to pay for it and not Migros! And that brings us to the topic of why we have so much "unrecyclable plastic" - dear Migros and other major distributors? Moreover, shouldn't the energy cycle be calculated in such a way that we end consumers generate it and indirectly pay for everything (plastic in the bin - pay for the bin liner, buy energy from the energy producer and pay....?)??
Supertrooper
Thanks for your input... that the bin liner is getting full - sorry, pretty banal, because I have to pay for it and not Migros! And that brings us to the topic of why we have so much "unrecyclable plastic" - dear Migros and other major distributors? Moreover, shouldn't the energy cycle be calculated in such a way that we end consumers generate it and indirectly pay for everything (plastic in the bin - pay for the bin liner, buy energy from the energy producer and pay....?)??
Hello @Supertrooper Closing the loop and increasing the use of recycled material is a big issue for us. Migros' well-known syrup bottles are now made from 100% recycled PET. This is the first time in Switzerland that the material cycle for PET bottles has been closed. This target is also to be achieved for mineral water by 2025. With immediate effect, mineral water bottles will consist of up to 60% recycled PET. Other packaging solutions, such as trays in the fruit and vegetable department or convenience products, also contain up to 80% recycled PET. In addition, the Mibelle Group has now succeeded for the first time in producing a new bottle from collected plastic bottles such as shampoos, body lotions or milk bottles, thus completely closing the PE bottle cycle. Best regards Sebastian
Sonarius
Plastic has its reasons, such as hygiene, with a plastic protective film without holes in it, protective gas may still be used (for the fresh and or tires). Some plastic may also have an effect on light protection, and you should also bear in mind that plastic is important to keep your bin bag full! A full bin liner is fuel, which in turn generates energy for district heating during incineration. The cycle was designed in this way. Offering certain products openly is problematic as customers often do not handle the goods in an advantageous way. With open goods, for example, there are these reusable mesh bags.
It's not ideal that you always have to answer someone to write something. A lot of things are in a cardboard box and then a protective film around it, can it be that this is packed differently from store to store? I don't know what others do, but I don't get a 17L garbage bag full in a week, only if I order a lot online and get a lot of packaging material to stuff and at the price, about 2 francs is not the world now.
Sebastian_Migros
Hello @Supertrooper Closing the loop and increasing the use of recycled material is a big issue for us. Migros' well-known syrup bottles are now made from 100% recycled PET. This is the first time in Switzerland that the material cycle for PET bottles has been closed. This target is also to be achieved for mineral water by 2025. With immediate effect, mineral water bottles will consist of up to 60% recycled PET. Other packaging solutions, such as trays in the fruit and vegetable department or convenience products, also contain up to 80% recycled PET. In addition, the Mibelle Group has now succeeded for the first time in producing a new bottle from collected plastic bottles such as shampoos, body lotions or milk bottles, thus completely closing the PE bottle cycle. Best regards Sebastian
Thank you very much for your answer, Sebastian! Have I understood correctly, does this mean that we can now dispose of the plastic vegetable trays with the PET bottles? What about the packaging materials from suppliers abroad? Sorry to insist ;-)
Sonarius
It's not ideal that you always have to answer someone to write something. A lot of things are in a cardboard box and then a protective film around it, can it be that this is packed differently from store to store? I don't know what others do, but I don't get a 17L garbage bag full in a week, only if I order a lot online and get a lot of packaging material to stuff and at the price, about 2 francs is not the world now.
Good input, but think about how a large family has to calculate? Even if they don't go "online" and shop there, a lot of packaging material comes together even with all the purchases in the large-scale distributors, and maybe 2 Fr. each for the waste is a lot of money? However, fortunately everyone can do and think as they please...
Supertrooper
Good input, but think about how a large family has to calculate? Even if they don't go "online" and shop there, a lot of packaging material comes together even with all the purchases in the large-scale distributors, and maybe 2 Fr. each for the waste is a lot of money? However, fortunately everyone can do and think as they please...
If you have planned a large family and you don't live in the country and use this infrastructure in terms of raw materials, you will certainly accumulate a lot of garbage. 2 francs for a cantonal garbage bag or glue could get you part of the way there, depending on the week and planning. (With small children, that's another matter) But I still reckon on double that! (it's also a question of buying behaviour) In addition, if I were to plan more than 17 liters for each week, a waste compactor would have been in the house long ago! this would create a good 2/3 more space for plastic waste! compost will hopefully be disposed of in green! Everyone can do and think as they currently think to a certain extent, but whether this is always so good is open to question, optimization and planning, a part of evolution! Edit addendum: "Child allowances. The entitlement begins with the month in which the child is born and ends with the month in which the child reaches the age of 16. ... The child allowance amounts to CHF 200 per month for each child (natural child, stepchild, adopted child, foster child)." A large family should not be an excuse, this should of course also be planned much more structurally. Edit Migros Link: I would even ask Migros or other retailers / stores whether a large family would have the possibility to buy extra large bags (e.g. 5-10 KG noodles) or large boxes (or directly e.g. vegetable harasses, i.e. in the form before it is unpacked in the store), whether this is on offer or whether it could be offered. edit Fun: Salamander, Eugen, Röbbi, Thosten, Julia, Köbbi, Roland, Meike, Simone, Elvin, Miriam, Karim, Husein, Sybil, Konrad, Ester, Ileisa, Peter, Jakob, Ismael, Selleri, Kevin! Food is ready! There's fresh food from the bag again!
Sebastian_Migros
Hello @Supertrooper Closing the loop and increasing the use of recycled material is a big issue for us. Migros' well-known syrup bottles are now made from 100% recycled PET. This is the first time in Switzerland that the material cycle for PET bottles has been closed. This target is also to be achieved for mineral water by 2025. With immediate effect, mineral water bottles will consist of up to 60% recycled PET. Other packaging solutions, such as trays in the fruit and vegetable department or convenience products, also contain up to 80% recycled PET. In addition, the Mibelle Group has now succeeded for the first time in producing a new bottle from collected plastic bottles such as shampoos, body lotions or milk bottles, thus completely closing the PE bottle cycle. Best regards Sebastian
Quote: "Migros' well-known syrup bottles are now made from 100% recycled PET. This is the first time in Switzerland that the material cycle for PET bottles has been closed. This target is also to be achieved for mineral water by 2025. With immediate effect, mineral water bottles will consist of up to 60% recycled PET. This will save around 2,500 tonnes of new material every year." What is the argument against REUSABLE GLASS BOTTLES? The contents TASTE better in glass - and they do so SIGNIFICANTLY! Reusable glass is also possible for other contents: jam, syrup, mayo, mustard ........ many things are available in disposable glass or other packaging. The future would be: reusable!Migros would be in a much better position than everyone else. e.g. own brands in reusable packaging. M Budget, M Classic reusable and the "brands" would have to follow suit at some point and also offer reusable packaging. That would be a real step towards sustainability and something that "the others" don't have on their radar. They'll carry on like this until the customer goes on strike.