You've already done a lot to reduce packaging. For example, I think the Migros shopping bags instead of the many paper bags are great. I'd be interested to know how many paper bags have been saved...
Another thing that bothers me is the plastic tray packaging, e.g. for small lettuces - is that really necessary? There are other materials available today, such as compostable starch, which might offer new possibilities. It's also a shame that organic vegetables in particular are always surrounded by plastic.
There are thin plastic bags for open products. How about reducing this by offering reusable and washable vegetable nets. Then you could buy such nets - similar to the shopping bags!
Best regards Happy studio
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Hello gluecksatelier
Thank you for your message. We are pleased that the topic of packaging is close to your heart and that you are giving it some thought.
As you know, we are constantly optimizing our packaging. I will be happy to pass on your suggestions and specific ideas on this topic to the people responsible.
You can find more information about packaging at Migros under the following links:
Packaging accounts for the largest proportion of plastic consumption. That's why it's worth paying attention to packaging and avoiding plastic, especially when shopping. Read here which simple tips you can use to do this.
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There used to be small white and larger brown free paper bags with an orange "M" and a few green "M "s behind every Migros checkout. It's a shame that they no longer exist, they lasted a long time, could be used several times and were eventually thrown away. I can't understand why they have been replaced by miserable plastic bags that tear immediately. In any case, this has nothing to do with sustainability or customer friendliness.
@ivan92 The ideas in your link leave a lot to be desired. There is not a weekly market everywhere and when there is, it is in the city center, where it is often difficult to find a nearby parking space. What's more, many market traders now use their own plastic bags and use them for weighing. You swap one plastic for another, but that doesn't achieve anything.
Avoid shrink-wrapped fruit and vegetables and opt for loose produce instead. Which you then pack again in a plastic bag anyway. :-) Or how do you buy five loose apples or a kilo of grapes?
Avoid plastic bags for weighing and packing fruit and vegetables in the supermarket and use cloth bags instead. So that you pay the higher weight of the cloth bag each time according to the price per kilo of the goods. In addition, the price label may not stick to the cloth bag and it is also questionable whether the cashier will accept it. You often can't tare the scales in the supermarket yourself. Correctly, they should show "minus 1 gram" so that the plastic bag is not counted, but this is rarely the case.
For bottled drinks, it's better to buy reusable rather than disposable and glass rather than plastic. People buy water and drinks mostly out of affectation, they feel modern when everyone sees that they are buying special mineral water. Lugging the heavier glass reusable bottles back to the store doesn't matter. Take a look at the following topic, there are even people who find it too much effort to make their own tea. https:// community.migros.ch/m/Forum-Migipedia/Ungezuckerter-unges%C3%BCsster-Ice-Tea/td-p/508351/jump-to/first-unread-message
Don't buy coffee capsules, they are really unnecessary and a small environmental sin. The capsules may be small, but they are a huge environmental sin. 99% of all small packaging would be unnecessary, they are only bought out of affectation. Unstable people need visible and purchased self-confidence.
Meat, sausage and cheese can be bought at the counter in the supermarket or from the butcher in containers that you bring yourself. To comply with EU hygiene regulations, it is only important that your own container does not end up BEHIND the counter. In practice, this is just as cumbersome as the example above with the cloth bag. The cashier would probably open the container she doesn't know, as it could contain something else.
Do not buy plastic bags at the checkout. It is better to bring your own bags made of fabric or recycled material. If you have forgotten these, it is better to buy paper bags. The free bags from Migros are worthless anyway because they tear far too quickly. It is better to use the free bags from the Coop (printed with the Coop logo) as they are much more durable and can easily be used up to ten times. You can also fold some of them up very small and put them in your pocket.
Biodegradable and even compostable packaging made from thermoplastic starch has been around for a long time. This is obtained from corn, wheat or potatoes, but is often only used as a filling or stuffing material when shipping goods. However, the hydrophilic properties of thermoplastic starch are often seen as a disadvantage. This is precisely why it would be very easy to biodegrade. A water-impermeable alternative would be cellulose hydrate or cellophane, also known under the brand name cellophane. This is a plastic that can be made entirely from renewable raw materials and can also be completely transparent. This means that bio-plastic packaging already exists which could be disposed of with waste paper or composted after use. Such plastics could then be more easily digested by animals and we would run less risk of being poisoned by plastic nanoparticles in the food chain.
Such biological alternatives are only not used because they are slightly more expensive to buy due to a lack of demand and the packaging systems might have to be adapted to the new material. These are costs that would ultimately add two or three centimes to the price of a product such as a mass-produced salad. There are a large number of organic plastics that are in no way inferior to fossil plastics in terms of their properties. If a major distributor like Migros were to switch to these materials, they could become more established and would soon be cheaper than fossil plastic.
This bird would certainly have lived longer with organic plastic. Ultimately, it gave its life for the greater profit of the large corporations, who could have prevented the poor animal from dying miserably from our waste.
Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet
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In my experience, it is normal at the weekly market to get your groceries without plastic and to use a bag or basket that you have brought with you.
More and more of the new suppliers are using little or no plastic:
Farmy, an "online farm store" for regional and organic products: https://www.farmy.ch
Weighing fruit and vegetables in Migros without packaging and then putting them loose in the shopping basket or in a bag I have brought myself has never caused me any problems so far.
Exactly. I never leave the house without having different bags with me. I get two different products of reusable nets in my organic store. They are plastic, but I bought them once and they have lasted me for years and I wash them over and over again. They are like the laundry nets for delicate items so they don't break in the washing machine. The labels from weighing don't stick to them very well, so I put them in the bag. No problem at all and no cashier has ever looked at me funny or criticized me. On the contrary. Some of them asked me where I got them and that they didn't even know and that it was a great thing. It doesn't add any weight and I also have a cloth bag with me. The little bit of weight doesn't matter. And in organic stores and at markets, I've never had any problems giving the goods to the cashier one by one from the shopping basket and then packing them individually into my bag. Especially when I have forgotten my bags. It's also no problem to take a jar or a Tupperware for delicate items. It's all very simple if you want it to be. It's just a matter of getting used to it. Long live the goal: zero waste wherever possible!
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Good idea to use such a laundry net. :-) I will adopt this variant for nuts, small fruits, grapes etc., thank you very much. :-) You don't need a bag for individual fruits of a certain size.
Nevertheless, the solution to the general plastic problem lies in promoting more bio-plastics so that fossil plastics can be completely dispensed with in future. This would already be possible today, because in addition to cellophane and starch, hemp is also ideally suited to replacing fossil plastics in a variety of designs and areas. Hemp regenerates the soil as it grows, thrives without pesticides, could easily replace cotton, could serve as a fuel, is well tolerated, healthy and is also becoming increasingly important in the pharmacological field. There is no other cultivated plant that is so versatile, so good for the climate and could thrive wonderfully here. Ecological and economic possibilities of hemp as a raw material
But I don't think there is enough of Duttweiler's pioneering spirit left in today's Migros to be actively involved in new approaches such as bioplastics. We will probably have to wait until Lidl or Aldi take over.
I like the nets that are meant for shopping even better, because they have straps to pull them together: http://www.3bbags.com/ but unfortunately they are produced in China (but by a women's community that provides work, another good thing) and these: http://www.puurhip.nl/Webwinkel-Product-9294684/Take-5-bags.html You can buy both in our organic store.
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Avoiding waste brings us much more than simply making it biodegradable. Taking the detour via "bio" plastic could be deceptive.
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Well explain that, dear Ivan92, firstly because practically all food is packaged in plastic and secondly because compostable plastic would ultimately no longer be waste at all.
Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet
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@deactivated user Not everything is packaged in plastic everywhere. There are even stores that do not use disposable packaging at all. I have yet to see a single package made of organic plastic. As a result, the only feasible solution today is to avoid waste completely.