Dear Migipedia community and community team
I thought long and hard about whether I should write this thread. The following:
I accept that there are products that are made for vegetarians. Then there are products for vegans, I accept that too. If a product has to make way for a vegan product, I accept it.
But there's a difference, I've looked at various threads and it makes my hair stand on end. Veganism is a trend, Migros follows trends in its product range.
Allergies, on the other hand, are forced food changes.
Diabetics can't choose whether they can eat normal chocolate.
Epileptics can't choose whether or not to have menthol or eucalyptus in their products. They shouldn't. You just have to search for a long time until you find cold ointment or something like that.
Then there are also people affected by lactose intolerance. Also not a trend.
I think it's great that you're including alternatives in your range for allergy sufferers, so if you have to make way for something else, I fully understand.
But why do you take Christmas baubles away from diabetics just once a year? Incomprehensible.
And nothing against vegans, but how do vegans themselves, including lacto-vegans, feel when a product for allergy sufferers has to make way for vegan milk, whatever is replaced by lactose intolerant people against Lactovegan, a great example a few hours ago.
I would like all allergy sufferers and all voluntary attitudes towards food to express themselves here as to whether they think it's okay if allergy sufferers' products are replaced by vegetarian or vegan products, etc.
Lg @Mystery1978
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@Mystery1978- I understand the frustration, the vegi troop is just extremely active with their wishes, many simply want to convert us "barbarians".
This can be seen in terms that should actually be reserved for meat products (sausage, meat patties etc.) or butter/eggs (plaited bread etc.). But no, they also have to look practically the same and then be vegan...
Then, out of carelessness, you buy one of these .... (everyone can think what they want about the points) and are then disappointed at home because the taste is completely different.
Our granddaughter with afro hair can't buy hair care products in Migros either, although it's not her fault that Migros products are ineffective and she also has to search online and have them sent to her.
I'm finished!
@Tessin Now of course I don't know whether she is allergic to the shampoo or whether there is no product for afro hair at Migros. But I do know that you need special shampoo for afro hair.
Let me give you an example of what has already happened to me:
I am epileptic, so I react strongly to eucalyptus and strong menthol.
I once thought, "Bonherbal instant herbal tea is great, I'll buy it quickly for my cough." When I got home, I naturally made a cup of tea straight away without reading the ingredients. About halfway through I started to feel funny, but then I looked and there was eucalyptus in it.
None of you will believe example number 2
I once bought a Kneipp shower gel balm or I don't remember. It said lavender in italics. I closed the bathroom at home, soaped myself up with it and took a shower. Sauna to the power of 2 as usual and then the joke, eucalyptus in my nose. You know what almost happened.
So I read the ingredients and it said eucalyptin or something, then the case was clear.
What I have now described at length and in detail is not the point. If you were to exaggerate it now and there was only 1 bath essence to buy, such as lavender (doesn't bother epileptics), then it would have to make way for a eucalyptus bath essence, I wouldn't find that funny. That would be an exaggerated scenario. But the point I want to make is, don't take away the chocolate balls from diabetics or the portions of milk from people with lactose intolerance.
Migros does a lot for allergy sufferers, but don't take it away from them. It's actually a gift if you make glucose-free products or lactose-free or whatever you produce or include in your range.
But replacing a product that was made for allergy sufferers with vegan products, I think, would also bother vegans. After all, they also want to feel good if they are theoretically allergic to something.
What is your opinion?
Lg @Mystery1978
Unfortunately, I have an intolerance, which is very rare. I have no choice but to meticulously read the list of ingredients.
And yes, as a vegan myself, I consider it to make a big difference whether there is nothing because of my free choice (vegan) or because of an intolerance.
Dear Mystery. I found my way to a therapist with my story. From the point of view of mental training, there is the sentence: What you concentrate on grows. Why shouldn't I concentrate on healing and leave out everything that stimulates my energetic cause? To what extent do I have to activate my self-love in order to love myself? What does the other person want to love about me if I can't do it myself? With my story, I know what is still possible, even if progress is slow! Would we ever think of filling a diesel car with gasoline? But many people don't hear/feel their bodies and eat what the advertising says. And how far am I aware of that?
I am only there to learn, without Cunulus points, but from the point of view of several lives the most important basis. Have courage and confidence to tackle your issues.
@soup plate
I don't know whether you are vegan because you want to be out of conviction, or whether you have to be because of intolerance, or both. That's just a gray area that comes back to allergies/intolerances. I can't think of anything to help.
@joeweibel
I was also at the bottom and managed to achieve my goals without a therapist. I no longer have a therapist, I live with a dear friend and 2 cats, and despite having epilepsy, I have managed to be seizure-free for over a year and can finally take the theoretical test in 8 days.
"Learn to love yourself before you can love someone else. "
How far you have to activate your self-love, look in the mirror and change what you don't like until you can say to yourself "it's fine the way it is, if others don't like it, they should look away." Your partner accepts you and loves you the way you are, if not then it's the wrong person. Gorging yourself won't help, nor will alcohol and other things - the problems will still be there afterwards.
All you need is a handful of friends who will stick by you in every situation, not just when you go out or whatever.
This is what I can give you on your way. Whether you want to go down this path is your decision. My process took 12 years.
Never fill diesel cars with gasoline because the car is allergic to it and will no longer drive.
Lg @Mystery1978
Okay, everyone can decide how they want. But you wouldn't like it if a product made for allergy sufferers was replaced by a vegetarian product. Or would you find that okay?
Hence the thread "Allergy vs. lifestyle" You can't choose whether you have an allergy or not.
Vegetarians, frustrated people and vegans, on the other hand, can choose this and make it up with their morals.
I understand not eating cows because burning out the horns causes the animal pain.
But the fact that people then have a Smartphohn or a PC, that children give their lives for the ore in mines, and that people die in China because they have to work when they have a fever of over 40 degrees, that they make the Smartphohn together, nobody thinks that's morally okay. ?
What is morally ok is for everyone to decide for themselves - that's the right thing to do
Lg @Mystery1978
@Bodenseeknusperli
You probably didn't read my 1st thread or didn't read it carefully. Do that, then write your opinion and don't skim.
That's what I was once told.
@Bodenseeknusperli
I was just thinking and remembered that diabetic Christmas chocolates are no longer there. This is how a user described it on Migipedia.
Lactose-free coffee cream in portions has been replaced by lactose-vegan milk in jugs in Migros restaurants.
I don't write in confusion, just in great detail. That's why I write such novels so that everyone understands. Apparently there are people who understand me, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten an answer.
I really don't want to argue with you again, so give your opinion on the subject if you would be so kind. To the 2nd paragraph where I described it exactly in this thread ?
Lg @Mystery1978
Too few sales - people also need to be informed that there are such super sugar-free balls in the range. What Migros is doing is simply not right.