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I have the same problem. Brownish olives, smelly, inedible. L44264080401. Bought on 26.11. Opened on the same day and immediately disposed of again.
Hello Dallafse, thank you for your message. We are sorry that you did not enjoy it. We apologize for the disappointment caused. Based on your description, we suspect that the olives had an increased iron content. The latter can affect the taste and appearance. As olives are natural products, such occurrences cannot be completely avoided. Nevertheless, we are taking your comments as an opportunity to tighten up our controls. We hope your experience with us will be positive again in the future. Best regards, your M-Infoline team
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Dear Migros On Saturday I had to throw away two packets of olives. Before opening them, I noticed that the olives were browner than usual. They smelled terribly "old" and were inedible. The second packet (both still in their original packaging) had the same problem. They had been stowed away in the kitchen cupboard as usual since I bought them. Lot L43117074806 / L43117074808, best before 31.05.2024 This is for your information in case we receive any more such reports.
Hello markuseh, thank you for your message. We were happy to discuss the issue with our specialist department.
We checked the corresponding retained samples and could not detect any deviation - neither in taste nor in smell. The olives are deep black in appearance, firm and crunchy in texture and slightly salty and intense in flavor. We also found no irregularities in the sensory analyses carried out at regular intervals.
One possible explanation could be that the olives have a relatively high iron content (processed with ferrous gluconate E 579), which affects the taste of the olives. Although this is very rare, it can occur. A more precise analysis without a sample is extremely difficult. Best regards, your M-Infoline team
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Hello, when the sachet is opened, can it be left in the kitchen without refrigeration? I used to put it in the fridge but here in the home it's not possible. Thank you in advance and best regards Jean-Paul Descombes
Hello jeparudesco, thank you for your inquiry. On the packaging it says "keep refrigerated after opening". If you do not keep the item in the refrigerator, we cannot guarantee that the product will remain good. Best regards, your M-Infoline team
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Were the olives artificially colored?
Good evening Fork33 Yes, you can read the answers from M-Infoline below at asyo or at Phoenix . Best regardsFrederica
Hello Fork33, thank you for your question. Correct, to be more precise, they are olives oxidized by oxygen (with iron II gluconate). Best regards, your M-Infoline team
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According to my information, these are blackened green olives. Why does Migros sell products with more appearance than reality? The coloring with iron-II-gluconate is considered deception in my eyes. Precisely because Migros has been focusing so much on transparency recently, they should be selling either green olives or REAL black olives. Anything else is inconsistent. Greetings
Hello asyo, the olives from Spain are harvested by the producer when they are still green. After washing, they are placed in a tank where they are exposed to the oxidation process until they turn black. To stabilize this color, the producer uses the stabilizer "ferrous gluconate". In concrete terms, this means that the olives do not receive any colorant, but instead their color changes through additional oxidation. Ferrous gluconate is considered harmless to health and no harmful side effects have been identified to date. In our range you will also find tree-ripened olives (e.g. M-Classic Greek olives from Amphissa ) and olives oxidized in the sun (e.g. black olives à la grècque, article number 1560.266). Best regards, your M-Infoline team
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Is it true that you can freeze olives?
Hello AuClanDestin Olives are fruits that are very rich in oil - that's why they're also called "oil fruits" - and like all oils, olive oil becomes rancid and flaky when cold. More to the point: freezing is not the problem per se, but rather defrosting. Thawed oil - and therefore also oil from oil-rich fruits - quickly breaks down into its constituent parts and loses its aroma. Best regards Frederica
We recommend that you do not freeze olives. We recommend that you store your olives in an airtight container in the refrigerator after opening, or in brine, as this will extend their shelf life without affecting their quality. This extends their shelf-life without altering their quality. With best regards, your M-Infoline team
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Why does Migros need to artificially dye olives black? The ingredient E579, which is declared as a stabilizer, is iron-II-gluconate (E579), which is used to dye green (unripe) olives black. I consider this to be deception of the customer and would have expected better ethical behaviour from Migros, which I like to trust a lot. http://www.t-online.de/lifestyle/besser-leben/id_50677864/lebensmittel-schwarze-oliven-sind-oft-gefaerbt.html
Hello Phoenix Thank you for your feedback. Depending on the ripening process, an olive is green or, in the late ripening stage, brown-dark brown to purple on the tree. A tree-ripened olive never turns deep black on the tree. A tree-ripened olive also becomes soft as it hangs longer on the tree. The oxidation of the olives by means of atmospheric oxygen causes the originally green, crisp olives to turn black. This black color is then stabilized with iron II gluconate (E 579). Iron-II-gluconate - a salt of gluconic acid - is a food additive from the group of stabilizers. This process was developed in California and is now an integral part of olive processing worldwide. Apart from the desired discolouration, the oxidation keeps the olives nice and crispy and thus loses the disadvantage of tree-ripened olives, which become soft in consistency. We hope this information has been helpful and wish you a good day. Your M-Infoline Team
Dear Migros, there are apparently no black olives available in stores that are not blackened except organic. However, it would be desirable if you would indicate this on the packaging, as other brands do.
Hello Ian76, thank you for your feedback on the olives. The organic Kalamata olives (item no. 1560.211) are not blackened, but natural. We note the corresponding additives on the back of the pack in the list of ingredients. Best regards, your M-Infoline team
Hi M-Infoline strange, I haven't received a message about your feedback. So, the blackness is nothing other than the "stabilizer E579". You have to know that first. It would be more transparent if "E579" was translated, as other brands do. Thanks for the tip about the organic black Greek olives. I will give them a try.
Hello Phoenix, additives can be listed by law with their E number (e.g. E 579) or with their individual name (e.g. iron II gluconate). We are happy to take note of your suggestion. Here is some more information on black olives that may be of interest: Olives are green when they are harvested half-ripe, black olives are either ripe or colored. Either way, olives are inedible straight from the tree. They must first be debittered and fermented. To do this, they are treated with an alkaline solution or placed in brine for several months and then subjected to lactic acid fermentation. Only then are the olives processed further, e.g. sorted according to size, pitted, stuffed, preserved in oil and bottled. Olives that have ripened on the tree are dark in color (dark brown or purple-green-black). Their oil content is high, the taste is mild and the flesh is soft. Such natural olives are difficult to process (e.g. pitted or sliced). Black-colored olives are better suited for this purpose. The oxidation method was developed to obtain olives with a uniform deep black color and firm, crisp flesh. Green olives are used for this and air is repeatedly added during the fermentation process. This triggers an oxidation process - a kind of "rusting" of the olives - and the fruit turns black due to its natural iron content. However, the natural iron content of the olives is not high enough to achieve and maintain a deep black color. This is why iron is added in the form of ferrous gluconate. Best regards, your M-Infoline team
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Far too salty. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the salt content of these olives is well over a full day's ration. But hardly anyone eats a full bag a day.
Hi wheid
Thank you for your comment - we really appreciate your opinion.
Olives are a rather salty product that should be enjoyed in moderation, whether as an aperitif or as a seasoning ingredient in dishes such as pizza. The salt content is usually around 4%. An average 30g portion of olives therefore provides around 20% of the recommended daily intake of salt
Olives that have been preserved by heating have a slightly lower salt content than olives stored in a preservative brine, but are inferior in taste and texture to olives in brine. Olives "à la grècque" are processed using an old preservation method (dry fermentation): After harvesting, the olives are layered with salt, stored dry and fermented. This causes the olives to lose water and become shriveled. The result is a very intense aroma and an increased salt content of around 8%.
We apologize that the salt content is too high for you. Our specialist department has been informed of your feedback - thank you for letting us know.
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I was in Migros today. As always, I wanted to buy the olives (pitted) for 2.40. I discovered a new packaging with a red round sticker "New design, same contents, less packaging". Well, it suggests that there are the same number of olives in the item as before - this is not the case; the quantity has been reduced from 200g to 150g - this means a price increase of a whopping 25% (due to the quantity, so that nobody notices)! I think it's OK that you adjust the prices, but do you have to use such a "shabby" trick to give the impression that it's the same as before? Please make a statement!
Hello simonp
Thank you for your feedback. We have two different pack sizes for this item: one 150g and one 200g. The packaging looks almost the same. Here is the link to the 200g pack:
http://w ww.migipedia.ch/de/lebensmittel/eingelegtes/oliven/spanische-oliven-aus-andalusien/200g
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