Tooth gel with vitamin B12 (for vegetarians and vegans)

Zahngel mit Vitamin B12 (für Vegetarier und Veganer)

According to the label on the packaging: A chronic vitamin B12 deficiency, which often occurs in vegetarians, vegans and older people, can be harmful to health. The valuable vitamin B12 in Dental med tooth gel is absorbed by the body via the oral mucosa and, when used regularly, can reduce or even compensate for vitamin B12 deficiency.

Hello @Tanja_Migros
Hello @Luna_L

Luna_L, I'm referring to your suggestion from 12.05.2014.
I found it by chance in the "Improve Migros" topics. Now I can no longer reply there as the suggestion is closed. That's why I'm trying here.

@Tanja_Migros You replied to this at the time:

From Community Manager Tanja_Migros on 14.05.2014 17:46 Hi Luna L.
I'm afraid I have to disappoint you: We will not be able to offer a toothpaste with vitamins in. According to our toothpaste specialists, the addition of vitamins for absorption into the body is not permitted for toothpaste. Reason: Toothpastes are considered cosmetics and not medicines or food supplements.

Kind regards
Tanja, Migipedia-TeamNow I'm wondering, if it wasn't allowed, then I wouldn't be able to buy the tooth gel with vitamin B12 at . I've already bought the product for myself. Here you can see that there is also a version with fluorine:https://www.migros.ch/alnatura/de/alnatura/neues-von-alnatura/preissenkungenAuchI can get this product in Coop City and many smaller organic stores.how does this work legally, is the tooth gel with vitamin B12 a cosmetic, food supplement or medicine? I would be very interested to know why it is possible to sell this product, which I like myself, "legally" in Switzerland and under what name it is sold? best regardsLoxiran

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Guest

Hello Loxiran

Thank you very much for your message. Based on the original information I gave you, your question is of course now entirely justified.

I am already looking into this issue - I am also very interested in the answer from our specialists in this area.

As soon as I know more, I'll get back to you here.

Kind regards

Tanja

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Luna_L

Hello and thank you @Loxiranfor picking up on this again :-)! And also for the copy of the original answer I couldn't even remember that I ever read it or I never received a notification. Maybe I have become very forgetful, I only remembered that Tanja had replied that she would clarify it but then that was all I heard. I can't even find my old post anymore. Strangely enough, I can't find the part about "improving Migros" either. But no wonder it's been a long time and it seems to me that a lot has changed again here on the site. Probably another reason for me to stay away again (otherwise I just didn't have time to write and read here :-/). I've always been a bit annoyed by the poorly functioning search function, and now I can't even find posts in any other way than I used to. Even in your own feed you can only look where you have received or given likes, but not what and where you have written or created things (or maybe I'm just too stupid to find it ;-P). But that's another topic ;-)...

Your question also makes me wonder because, as I said, you can get toothpaste elsewhere and not just in pharmacies. I've never bought it in a pharmacy either.

Thank you @Tanja_MigrosichI am very curious to see what comes out this time :-)

Best regards

Luna_L

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Guest

Hello everyone

I am still working on clarifying this question. As soon as I get feedback, I'll get back to you!

@Luna_Ldu youare right, we have made a small change here: And that is that there is no longer a subforum, just a forum section for some time now.

Under "My profile" in the "Activity feed for Luna_L" section you should be able to find all the messages you have written here.

Best regards
Tanja

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Luna_L

Thanks@Tanja_Migros:-) I had looked there but still couldn't find it :-/... But never mind ;-). Now the whole thing has been requested again because of the toothpaste and so I'm curious to see what you find out :-). Aha yes, I noticed that the sub-forums are missing. In my opinion, it's now more difficult to find something but it's probably all a matter of getting used to it ;-)

GLG Luna_L

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Loxiran

Hello @Tanja_Migros

Have you received an answer yet? Unfortunately, I have seen that Alnatura has taken this Vit.B12 toothpaste without fluorine out of their range. They now only have the one with fluorine. What a shame, because now I can only buy it in Coop-City.
I hope that I will still get an answer? Even if Migros no longer stocks this toothpaste.

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Guest

Hello@Loxiran

The answer is not that simple. However, I have since found out that vitamin B12 is generally permitted in toothpaste. The addition of vitamins is also permitted in other cosmetic products (e.g. vitamin E in creams).

It is important to consider what the main purpose of the product is - in this case toothpaste. The main purpose of the toothpaste is to clean the teeth and not to take vitamin B12.

Kind regards
Tanja

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Dexterwolf

Hello everyone.
This is an old question, but I would like to ask again what the current situation is.
For many vegans, a toothpaste like this is worth its weight in gold and I think Migros would also benefit from having something like this on offer. (After all, vegan is a trend -.- xD)

Best regards

Kevin

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Dexterwolf

The problem is that I would like to have 100% of vitamin B12, which would be 2x/d in toothpaste.
I otherwise eat a balanced diet and don't want to overdose my body with other synthetically produced vitamins, which is known to be harmful.
I have not yet found a pure vitamin B12 preparation.
Therefore.

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Guest

As far as I know, vitamin B12 is soluble in water and is excreted via the kidneys as soon as the reservoir is full, with relatively little effort. I have never heard or read of B12 overdoses either on the internet or in specialist literature!

Which of course doesn't mean that it doesn't exist - it just seems to be rare because of the "once-storage-full-is-flushed-out" mechanism...

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Dexterwolf

This argument with "the kidneys excrete it again"... Yes, if you drink large amounts of alcohol, the liver excretes it again, so that's healthy! The kidneys don't excrete anything! The kidney is a filter organ, just like the liver!

I'll explain briefly (sorry, I'm a student, I have to do this now)

The problem with synthetic vitamins:
The body recognizes naturally occurring vitamins as such and doses them during digestion. There are receptors on the cells that constantly measure whether there are enough vitamins or not. They send signals. Vitamins are then increasingly absorbed in the intestine or excreted (via the stool). The best known example is that absorption in the intestine increases automatically in the case of iron deficiency.
Synthetically produced vitamins are NOT recognized as such and everything gets into the blood. The regulatory mechanism is bypassed and the body becomes stressed in order to get rid of them.
The anatomy of the kidney:
There is a kind of "sieve" in the glomerulum (kidney corolla). Blood vessels pass through it and substances are exchanged by osmosis (a lot of fluid in the blood -> low ion concentration -> water is drawn through the "sieve" to compensate). The same applies if there are too many ions (salts, glucose, other charged particles) which result in an imbalance between the blood and the ureter.
Why does diabetes damage the kidneys? Because this "sieve" is not intended to exchange glucose but water. However, the glucose cannot get into the cells (pancreas produces too little or insufficient insulin -> insulin opens the door to the cells for glucose), but is already in the blood and has to get out again somehow in order to create a balance. However, the glucose destroys this sieve, it becomes perforated, the glomeruli are destroyed and over time this results in renal insufficiency.

What does it have to do with vitamins?
Synthetic vitamins enter the blood in an uncontrolled and complete manner and have to be pushed through the glomerulus in the event of an overdose, just like glucose in a diabetic.

Vitamin B12 can be stored in large quantities and an overdose can only occur after many years of overdosing with synthetic B12.

But the question was why I don't take an energy supplement with 200% B12 and even more daily B6. I am talking about the fact that I ONLY want vitamin B12 and no B6 and no iron and no B3 etc., because the only thing I lack is B12 and I don't want to overdose on the rest!

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