We need more products that are not wrapped in plastic, e.g. natural yogurt made of glass, drinks, etc. We don't always need more and more products, better sustainable and sensibly packaged.
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5 years ago
Hello @yogi89 Thank you for your message. Glass is made from sand and lime and is easily recyclable. However, a lot of energy is needed to produce and recycle glass - especially for melting it down. This energy in turn requires crude oil. In addition, glass bottles, for example, are many times heavier than plastic bottles. In addition to the higher material consumption, this also has ecological disadvantages during transportation, as more fuel is used than for lightweight plastic bottles. From an ecological point of view, this means that due to the significantly lower material consumption, the environmental impact of plastic bottles is usually much lower than that of glass bottles. Best regards Sebastian
5 years ago
Sebastian_Migros
5 years ago
Hello @yogi89 Thank you for your message. Glass is made from sand and lime and is easily recyclable. However, a lot of energy is needed to produce and recycle glass - especially for melting it down. This energy in turn requires crude oil. In addition, glass bottles, for example, are many times heavier than plastic bottles. In addition to the higher material consumption, this also has ecological disadvantages during transportation, as more fuel is used than for lightweight plastic bottles. From an ecological point of view, this means that due to the significantly lower material consumption, the environmental impact of plastic bottles is usually much lower than that of glass bottles. Best regards Sebastian
Many thanks for the feedback. These are all things that everyone has probably heard and yet something should be changed, shouldn't it? If you were to buy yogurt from local farmers, there would be less transportation costs etc. and the glass wouldn't have to be melted down. Where the glass doesn't have to be melted down either. In any case, I will try to buy my yogurt locally and no longer from Migros. At least as long as nothing changes. Kind regards
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5 years ago
Thank you
5 years ago
yogi89
5 years ago
Many thanks for the feedback. These are all things that everyone has probably heard and yet something should be changed, shouldn't it? If you were to buy yogurt from local farmers, there would be less transportation costs etc. and the glass wouldn't have to be melted down. Where the glass doesn't have to be melted down either. In any case, I will try to buy my yogurt locally and no longer from Migros. At least as long as nothing changes. Kind regards
It's not popular with all the environmental activists and "I have to live my life completely environmentally conscious because it's all the rage everywhere" hipsters... Glass really isn't the yellow of the egg that everyone says it is.
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5 years ago
Voting is currently underway to decide which projects will receive the money from the "Raschel bags". Vote for the two environmental education projects (Trickkiste Natur and Eco School). Maybe then our children will at least have learned that plastic is not very cool: https://migipedia.migros.ch/de/abstimmen
5 years ago
So there are a lot of threads about plastic, PET, etc.... But here it fits best. Sonntagszeitung 20.10.2019 page 45: Unilever beats Nestlé on environmental targets Very interesting article worth reading. But I wonder if Unilever will go through with it? Will they really reduce so much every year that they will have half the plastic waste by 2025? And the rest of the plastic is supposed to be half recycled plastic? It's a shame that it's still taking so long, as the problem has been talked about for ages...
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5 years ago
Sebastian_Migros
5 years ago
Hello @yogi89 Thank you for your message. Glass is made from sand and lime and is easily recyclable. However, a lot of energy is needed to produce and recycle glass - especially for melting it down. This energy in turn requires crude oil. In addition, glass bottles, for example, are many times heavier than plastic bottles. In addition to the higher material consumption, this also has ecological disadvantages during transportation, as more fuel is used than for lightweight plastic bottles. From an ecological point of view, this means that due to the significantly lower material consumption, the environmental impact of plastic bottles is usually much lower than that of glass bottles. Best regards Sebastian
over and over again these hackneyed arguments from the last century (where there was no waste problem with PET) but today we live in a different time.... But reusable glass systems are also better than single-use plastic bottles, as they can be refilled up to 50 times over an average lifespan.
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5 years ago
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5 years ago
over and over again these hackneyed arguments from the last century (where there was no waste problem with PET) but today we live in a different time.... But reusable glass systems are also better than single-use plastic bottles, as they can be refilled up to 50 times over an average lifespan.
With new glass, the proportion of waste gas can be up to 90%. Recycling also saves energy, and not just a little. The cullet from used glass requires around 50% less energy because it melts faster than the components from which new glass is made (600°C compared to 2000°C). This in turn saves energy and emissions of CO2 and nitrogen oxides. Unfortunately, telling fairy tales doesn't make them any truer...
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5 years ago
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5 years ago
With new glass, the proportion of waste gas can be up to 90%. Recycling also saves energy, and not just a little. The cullet from used glass requires around 50% less energy because it melts faster than the components from which new glass is made (600°C compared to 2000°C). This in turn saves energy and emissions of CO2 and nitrogen oxides. Unfortunately, telling fairy tales doesn't make them any truer...
In addition, I think there are other very important factors. For example, glass does not react with the contents it contains and does not release any substances - unlike plastic. And that is precisely the secret of why it is 100% recyclable. And the disposable PET bottles don't have much of an advantage either, because they are not refilled, but shredded and then melted down (at around 600 - 800°C). Well, first of all it's about the transport routes involved in recycling itself. It turns out that glass recycling and production is very local. 70% of the raw materials come from a radius of less than 300 kilometers, and more than 50% of the finished products are delivered within a maximum radius of 300 kilometers. That sounds pretty good and saves a lot of emissions that would be caused by further transport routes. for those who are interested, they are all "quotes" from the link https://minimalwaste.de/blog/die-vorteile-von-glas-gegenueber-plastik/ so that the sources are also included, I think that's part of a clear statement have a nice election sunday
5 years ago
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5 years ago
In addition, I think there are other very important factors. For example, glass does not react with the contents it contains and does not release any substances - unlike plastic. And that is precisely the secret of why it is 100% recyclable. And the disposable PET bottles don't have much of an advantage either, because they are not refilled, but shredded and then melted down (at around 600 - 800°C). Well, first of all it's about the transport routes involved in recycling itself. It turns out that glass recycling and production is very local. 70% of the raw materials come from a radius of less than 300 kilometers, and more than 50% of the finished products are delivered within a maximum radius of 300 kilometers. That sounds pretty good and saves a lot of emissions that would be caused by further transport routes. for those who are interested, they are all "quotes" from the link https://minimalwaste.de/blog/die-vorteile-von-glas-gegenueber-plastik/ so that the sources are also included, I think that's part of a clear statement have a nice election sunday
Hello @silvi11 Thank you for your comments. The study by the Federal Office for the Environment published a comprehensive analysis of beverage packaging in 2014 and can be accessed at the following link: https://www.bafu.admin.ch/bafu/de/home/themen/abfall/mitteilungen.msg-id-54391.html The most important findings: The following can be said about the environmental impact of the MW glass bottle. Glass production is of little relevance thanks to repeated use. However, the high weight of the glass bottle means that distribution and return transport for washing, together with the washing process, contribute significantly to the environmental impact and the reusable bottle performs similarly to beverage cartons and plastic bottles. In any case, EW glass bottles are among the beverage packaging with the highest environmental impact. This is mainly due to the high weight of the recyclable glass bottles and the fact that although the bottles can be recycled after a single use, they have to be melted down again at 1600 °C, which requires a lot of energy. From this point of view, the suitability for disposal is less good than with other types of packaging. Best regards Sebastian