Dear Migros When shopping for a party, I wanted to buy cheaper products (M-Budget) and baking mixes. On closer inspection, I noticed the following: M-Budget products are NOT Swiss products: -dried meat from Brazil -pizza cheese from Europe -herb cream cheese from Denmark -... But you only notice this when you look very closely at the back of the respective product. Something like this should be declared clearly and honestly. I'm sure that many people don't want to eat Brazilian dried meat or Danish cream cheese. When I bought the baking mix for vanilla muffins, I saw that the chocolate icing contains palm oil. If you want to see this, you also have to look very closely. Isn't it time Migros took responsibility and removed products containing palm oil from its range? Then these muffins will cost 10 centimes more - so what? Thanks, I'm done. Greetings, Phlow
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Hello Phlow Thank you for your post. All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label, making them easy to recognize at a glance. We have a number of alternatives made from Swiss meat, such as Spécialité Suisse Bünderfleisch, TerraSuisse Bündnerfleisch, TerraSuisse Hobelfleisch, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialities such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialties such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Appenzeller Mostbröckli, etc. By law, a great deal of information must appear on the price and declaration labels. Migros has been committed to sustainable palm oil more consistently and effectively than almost any other company for around 20 years. For example, Migros knows the plantations on which the palm trees are grown for 98 percent of the palm oil it uses. Migros ensures that, among other things, no rainforests are cut down on these plantations, no peat bogs are destroyed and no critical pesticides are used. Migros also sets clear requirements in terms of social conditions. The plantations are regularly inspected by the independent organization The Forest Trust (TFT). With these requirements, Migros goes far beyond the criteria of the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO). RSPO is a minimum standard for Migros and therefore not yet the solution, but an important step towards more sustainable production, as only around 20 percent of palm oil production worldwide has been certified to date. We cannot simply replace palm oil, as it has many advantages that are important in the food industry. Palm oil is already solid at room and refrigerator temperature (in contrast to olive oil, rapeseed oil, etc.) and therefore does not need to be hardened. This is an advantage in production, as incomplete hardening produces the undesirable trans fatty acids. It can also be heated to high temperatures. Another advantage of palm oil is its stability. Due to its composition, palm oil is less sensitive to the influence of heat and oxygen (oxidation), which is a technological and qualitative advantage, especially for long-life products. In order to replace palm oil, the formulations of many products would have to be changed, which would not always be to the advantage of the product or is hardly possible for some products. If palm oil is replaced and another oil is used instead, we are confronted with the same problems. Palm oil has the highest productivity per unit area. If palm oil were to be replaced by another oil or fat, the available land would only become even scarcer, as a much larger area would be required for the same amount of the raw material. This would further increase the pressure on the rainforest and other natural areas worthy of protection. For these reasons, Migros is committed to ensuring that it is produced sustainably, thus further increasing the pressure on producers to cultivate sustainably. Thanks to Migros and the WWF, more and more well-known customers are joining this demand. Thanks to this commitment, Migros has achieved the top mark in the latest WWF palm oil rating and is one of the top 137 companies worldwide. Kind regards, Angela
Hello Phlow Thank you for your post. All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label, making them easy to recognize at a glance. We have a number of alternatives made from Swiss meat, such as Spécialité Suisse Bünderfleisch, TerraSuisse Bündnerfleisch, TerraSuisse Hobelfleisch, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialities such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialties such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Appenzeller Mostbröckli, etc. By law, a great deal of information must appear on the price and declaration labels. Migros has been committed to sustainable palm oil more consistently and effectively than almost any other company for around 20 years. For example, Migros knows the plantations on which the palm trees are grown for 98 percent of the palm oil it uses. Migros ensures that, among other things, no rainforests are cut down on these plantations, no peat bogs are destroyed and no critical pesticides are used. Migros also sets clear requirements in terms of social conditions. The plantations are regularly inspected by the independent organization The Forest Trust (TFT). With these requirements, Migros goes far beyond the criteria of the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO). RSPO is a minimum standard for Migros and therefore not yet the solution, but an important step towards more sustainable production, as only around 20 percent of palm oil production worldwide has been certified to date. We cannot simply replace palm oil, as it has many advantages that are important in the food industry. Palm oil is already solid at room and refrigerator temperature (in contrast to olive oil, rapeseed oil, etc.) and therefore does not need to be hardened. This is an advantage in production, as incomplete hardening produces the undesirable trans fatty acids. It can also be heated to high temperatures. Another advantage of palm oil is its stability. Due to its composition, palm oil is less sensitive to the influence of heat and oxygen (oxidation), which is a technological and qualitative advantage, especially for long-life products. In order to replace palm oil, the formulations of many products would have to be changed, which would not always be to the advantage of the product or is hardly possible for some products. If palm oil is replaced and another oil is used instead, we are confronted with the same problems. Palm oil has the highest productivity per unit area. If palm oil were to be replaced by another oil or fat, the available land would only become even scarcer, as a much larger area would be required for the same amount of the raw material. This would further increase the pressure on the rainforest and other natural areas worthy of protection. For these reasons, Migros is committed to ensuring that it is produced sustainably, thus further increasing the pressure on producers to cultivate sustainably. Thanks to Migros and the WWF, more and more well-known customers are joining this demand. Thanks to this commitment, Migros has achieved the top mark in the latest WWF palm oil rating and is one of the top 137 companies worldwide. Kind regards, Angela
Wow a detailed answer. Great 👍 .↵↵The problem is simply that there are only 2 options on offer.↵And a lot of people, and the trend is rising, would prefer the 3rd option 😉↵1. with palm oil↵2. with "sustainable" palm oil↵3. NO PALM OIL↵↵That's just the problem. And I'm noticing more and more people around me who are completely rethinking many areas.
Hello Phlow Thank you for your post. All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label, making them easy to recognize at a glance. We have a number of alternatives made from Swiss meat, such as Spécialité Suisse Bünderfleisch, TerraSuisse Bündnerfleisch, TerraSuisse Hobelfleisch, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialities such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialties such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Appenzeller Mostbröckli, etc. By law, a great deal of information must appear on the price and declaration labels. Migros has been committed to sustainable palm oil more consistently and effectively than almost any other company for around 20 years. For example, Migros knows the plantations on which the palm trees are grown for 98 percent of the palm oil it uses. Migros ensures that, among other things, no rainforests are cut down on these plantations, no peat bogs are destroyed and no critical pesticides are used. Migros also sets clear requirements in terms of social conditions. The plantations are regularly inspected by the independent organization The Forest Trust (TFT). With these requirements, Migros goes far beyond the criteria of the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO). RSPO is a minimum standard for Migros and therefore not yet the solution, but an important step towards more sustainable production, as only around 20 percent of palm oil production worldwide has been certified to date. We cannot simply replace palm oil, as it has many advantages that are important in the food industry. Palm oil is already solid at room and refrigerator temperature (in contrast to olive oil, rapeseed oil, etc.) and therefore does not need to be hardened. This is an advantage in production, as incomplete hardening produces the undesirable trans fatty acids. It can also be heated to high temperatures. Another advantage of palm oil is its stability. Due to its composition, palm oil is less sensitive to the influence of heat and oxygen (oxidation), which is a technological and qualitative advantage, especially for long-life products. In order to replace palm oil, the formulations of many products would have to be changed, which would not always be to the advantage of the product or is hardly possible for some products. If palm oil is replaced and another oil is used instead, we are confronted with the same problems. Palm oil has the highest productivity per unit area. If palm oil were to be replaced by another oil or fat, the available land would only become even scarcer, as a much larger area would be required for the same amount of the raw material. This would further increase the pressure on the rainforest and other natural areas worthy of protection. For these reasons, Migros is committed to ensuring that it is produced sustainably, thus further increasing the pressure on producers to cultivate sustainably. Thanks to Migros and the WWF, more and more well-known customers are joining this demand. Thanks to this commitment, Migros has achieved the top mark in the latest WWF palm oil rating and is one of the top 137 companies worldwide. Kind regards, Angela
All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label. This makes them easy to recognise at a glance, like here? https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/222822060000 And in the small print it says: 60% New Zealand, 40% Europe (from experience, this usually means Poland or other countries in Eastern Europe, or Austria at best). At least Migros is no longer hiding the fact that it thinks its customers are stupid, but is standing by it - this should be expressly praised at this point. And no: there is no sustainable palm oil, even if you keep telling us that for years to come. But yes, commitment is better than nothing. Nevertheless, Migros will also recognize the signs of the times at some point - at the latest when it has to accept further customer migration. Or why has it already switched from palm oil, which it so vehemently defends, to alternatives for individual products, which it claims was not even possible a few years ago? ;-)
All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label. This makes them easy to recognise at a glance, like here? https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/222822060000 And in the small print it says: 60% New Zealand, 40% Europe (from experience, this usually means Poland or other countries in Eastern Europe, or Austria at best). At least Migros is no longer hiding the fact that it thinks its customers are stupid, but is standing by it - this should be expressly praised at this point. And no: there is no sustainable palm oil, even if you keep telling us that for years to come. But yes, commitment is better than nothing. Nevertheless, Migros will also recognize the signs of the times at some point - at the latest when it has to accept further customer migration. Or why has it already switched from palm oil, which it so vehemently defends, to alternatives for individual products, which it claims was not even possible a few years ago? ;-)
Hello Federwolke It is true that many customers want palm oil-free products. We have recognized this need and are trying to meet it, but it is unrealistic to expect us to switch all our products over immediately. As you have already mentioned, we have already succeeded in replacing palm oil in some products. The issue is a topical one for us. We will certainly make the switch for other products in the future too. Kind regards, Angela
All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label. This makes them easy to recognise at a glance, like here? https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/222822060000 And in the small print it says: 60% New Zealand, 40% Europe (from experience, this usually means Poland or other countries in Eastern Europe, or Austria at best). At least Migros is no longer hiding the fact that it thinks its customers are stupid, but is standing by it - this should be expressly praised at this point. And no: there is no sustainable palm oil, even if you keep telling us that for years to come. But yes, commitment is better than nothing. Nevertheless, Migros will also recognize the signs of the times at some point - at the latest when it has to accept further customer migration. Or why has it already switched from palm oil, which it so vehemently defends, to alternatives for individual products, which it claims was not even possible a few years ago? ;-)
Hi Federwolke Thanks for the link to the Hirschpfeffer. You are of course right, the Swiss cross should not appear on this page under any circumstances. Thank you very much for your comment. I have arranged for it to be removed as soon as possible. Kind regards, Angela
Hello Phlow Thank you for your post. All items made from Swiss meat have a Swiss cross on the price label, making them easy to recognize at a glance. We have a number of alternatives made from Swiss meat, such as Spécialité Suisse Bünderfleisch, TerraSuisse Bündnerfleisch, TerraSuisse Hobelfleisch, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialities such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, etc. These are supplemented with regional specialties such as Heidi Berg-Bündnerfleisch, Valais dried meat, Gruyère dried meat, Appenzeller Mostbröckli, etc. By law, a great deal of information must appear on the price and declaration labels. Migros has been committed to sustainable palm oil more consistently and effectively than almost any other company for around 20 years. For example, Migros knows the plantations on which the palm trees are grown for 98 percent of the palm oil it uses. Migros ensures that, among other things, no rainforests are cut down on these plantations, no peat bogs are destroyed and no critical pesticides are used. Migros also sets clear requirements in terms of social conditions. The plantations are regularly inspected by the independent organization The Forest Trust (TFT). With these requirements, Migros goes far beyond the criteria of the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO). RSPO is a minimum standard for Migros and therefore not yet the solution, but an important step towards more sustainable production, as only around 20 percent of palm oil production worldwide has been certified to date. We cannot simply replace palm oil, as it has many advantages that are important in the food industry. Palm oil is already solid at room and refrigerator temperature (in contrast to olive oil, rapeseed oil, etc.) and therefore does not need to be hardened. This is an advantage in production, as incomplete hardening produces the undesirable trans fatty acids. It can also be heated to high temperatures. Another advantage of palm oil is its stability. Due to its composition, palm oil is less sensitive to the influence of heat and oxygen (oxidation), which is a technological and qualitative advantage, especially for long-life products. In order to replace palm oil, the formulations of many products would have to be changed, which would not always be to the advantage of the product or is hardly possible for some products. If palm oil is replaced and another oil is used instead, we are confronted with the same problems. Palm oil has the highest productivity per unit area. If palm oil were to be replaced by another oil or fat, the available land would only become even scarcer, as a much larger area would be required for the same amount of the raw material. This would further increase the pressure on the rainforest and other natural areas worthy of protection. For these reasons, Migros is committed to ensuring that it is produced sustainably, thus further increasing the pressure on producers to cultivate sustainably. Thanks to Migros and the WWF, more and more well-known customers are joining this demand. Thanks to this commitment, Migros has achieved the top mark in the latest WWF palm oil rating and is one of the top 137 companies worldwide. Kind regards, Angela
Hi Angela Thank you for your reply. It's true that there are a number of alternatives from Swiss production - I've also made use of them. As far as palm oil is concerned, I'm not happy about the adulation. RSPO is only the best label in the sector because it is the only label. As you write, it is a minimum standard. Of course, palm oil is the oil with the highest productivity per unit area - even by far. The question is always at what price. The increasing demand for this product cannot be met sustainably. Truly sustainable production can only be achieved if the demand for it falls. This must primarily come from the manufacturer. Nestlé also claims to urgently need palm oil. That is window dressing. Rapeseed oil can also be hardened. This is used, for example, in Migros' puff pastry (big bravo!!!). In this area, I see the need for action in such a way that supply must regulate demand - so the responsibility lies not only with consumers, but also strongly with producers. Even if Migros is not sleeping in this area, there is still a lot to achieve. Kind regards Phlow
Hi Federwolke Thanks for the link to the Hirschpfeffer. You are of course right, the Swiss cross should not appear on this page under any circumstances. Thank you very much for your comment. I have arranged for it to be removed as soon as possible. Kind regards, Angela
Thank you for your efforts. However, I hardly think that the Swiss cross (which is also on the packaging) will disappear from Hirschpfeffer. After all, this newly created "Swiss label" is not an oversight, but a deliberate marketing ploy that is being applied to everything that is produced in Switzerland (in this specific case, the meat is simply cooked and the sauce made here). You will probably find many similar cases throughout the Migros range. Now, most consumers are probably aware that the main ingredient in Swiss chocolate, cocoa, is not grown in the Swiss forests. However, in the case of deer, which live and are hunted in Switzerland, such a label is - to put it bluntly - a label fraud. Even if it says in small print on the back that this is meat from the other side of the world: Who reads that when the Swiss cross is emblazoned on the front of the packaging?
Thank you for your efforts. However, I hardly think that the Swiss cross (which is also on the packaging) will disappear from Hirschpfeffer. After all, this newly created "Swiss label" is not an oversight, but a deliberate marketing ploy that is being applied to everything that is produced in Switzerland (in this specific case, the meat is simply cooked and the sauce made here). You will probably find many similar cases throughout the Migros range. Now, most consumers are probably aware that the main ingredient in Swiss chocolate, cocoa, is not grown in the Swiss forests. However, in the case of deer, which live and are hunted in Switzerland, such a label is - to put it bluntly - a label fraud. Even if it says in small print on the back that this is meat from the other side of the world: Who reads that when the Swiss cross is emblazoned on the front of the packaging?
"Made in Switzerland with meat from Brazil." Origin: Brazil --> that would be honest, and such a declaration should be prominently displayed on the front of a product. But this will not happen. The argument that demand cannot be met with Swiss meat is hardly justified. As long as wholesalers want to offer the full range of products until closing time, there will be food waste. But that is probably going too far.
Thank you for your efforts. However, I hardly think that the Swiss cross (which is also on the packaging) will disappear from Hirschpfeffer. After all, this newly created "Swiss label" is not an oversight, but a deliberate marketing ploy that is being applied to everything that is produced in Switzerland (in this specific case, the meat is simply cooked and the sauce made here). You will probably find many similar cases throughout the Migros range. Now, most consumers are probably aware that the main ingredient in Swiss chocolate, cocoa, is not grown in the Swiss forests. However, in the case of deer, which live and are hunted in Switzerland, such a label is - to put it bluntly - a label fraud. Even if it says in small print on the back that this is meat from the other side of the world: Who reads that when the Swiss cross is emblazoned on the front of the packaging?
Hello Federwolke We have checked and can therefore confirm that there is no Swiss cross on the packaging. We have since corrected the error on the Internet. Kind regards, Angela