Dear Migros
My birthday is now in September. I would like you to give me a GenTech-free total detergent - keyword enzymes
Thank you very much
Dear Migros
My birthday is now in September. I would like you to give me a GenTech-free total detergent - keyword enzymes
Thank you very much
Guest
Hello@Migrosnaut
Thank you for your message. I'll be happy to pass on your wish - but it's unlikely that we'll be able to fulfill it on your birthday ;-)
Kind regards
Tanja
Guest
Hello@Migrosnaut
Thank you for your message. I'll be happy to pass on your wish - but it's unlikely that we'll be able to fulfill it on your birthday ;-)
Kind regards
Tanja
Thanks Tanja for the feedback and the forwarding - after my birthday I still like to take it ;-) No stress
Guest
Hello DomiDeLuxe
I have received the following information from those responsible for the product range:
Enzymes are natural substances obtained from microorganisms such as bacteria or yeasts and have been used in detergents for many years. They are organic compounds that promote the metabolism. Protein, starch and fat-containing stains such as milk, blood, cocoa, sauces or sweat are broken down biologically by enzymes.
Modern developments in biotechnology have made it possible to produce suitable enzymes faster and more cheaply using genetic engineering. As a result, genetically engineered enzymes for detergents are almost exclusively available on the global market. The enzymes themselves are not modified and as such are the same as in conventional production. They are easily degraded in nature and therefore pose no risk to humans or the environment.
Legislation does not prescribe the declaration of these enzymes; however, Migros has voluntarily decided to declare them in the interests of open customer information. The other detergent producers also use genetically engineered enzymes, but do not declare them.
If you still want to use an alternative detergent: Our Yvette Care does not contain any enzymes. Sometimes we at Migros can fulfill birthday wishes super fast ;-)
Kind regards
Tanja
Dear Tanja
I am very grateful that Migros provides such precise information on ingredients and this encourages me to shop at Migros.
As a consumer / end user, I once again don't know what to believe. I have found exactly the opposite in various sources to what you received from the product range manager. For example, an excerpt from an Beobachter article:
...especially as many detergents contain genetically modified enzymes. During their production, it cannot be ruled out that genetically modified genetic material will be released into the environment and transferred to other organisms. "Nobody knows what happens then, and there is hardly any research into it"... Source:http://www.beobachter.ch/konsum/artikel/haushalt_mit-reinem-gewissen-waschen/
Good morning,
Or do as I do (allergic to various ingredients in detergents, shower gels, soaps etc.): --> Use so-called "Indian soap nuts" to wash your laundry. Simply put 4-5 shells in a small cloth bag and put them in the washing machine. This will clean normally soiled laundry. Only white laundry lacks the bleaching effect (which is why I hardly have any white laundry). So the problem regarding GMOs would not even exist (even if the production/harvesting of these soap nuts growing on the tree probably cannot be controlled down to the last detail, but there are also those that are produced under a label...). In any case, I have been washing my laundry with soap nuts for years and have not experienced any allergic reactions that I have had to attribute to detergents.
PS: Soapnuts can also be used in the dishwasher for cleaning (works, except for burnt-on food and the like...).
PS 2: Soapnuts can also be made into a small stock (put approx. 10 - 15 soapnuts in a small pan, add approx. 1 - 1.5 liters of water and bring to the boil). This decoction can then be used to treat pests, e.g. aphids on hibiscus (simply spray onto the plant in a hand sprayer). I have tried this myself with success - the aphids were gone after 2 applications.
LG
Thanks Tinu77 for the tip with the soap nuts - apart from my many intolerances, I tolerate Total detergent - in my case 1 for All - well. I would still be interested in a response from Migrios to the Beobachter article.
Guest
Hello@Migrosnaut
I apologize that you had to wait so long for feedback from us here.
The Beobachter article dates back to 2004 and is therefore no longer up to date. Migros offered the modular system described in the article, but it did not catch on.
The Swiss Cosmetics and Detergents Association has produced a publication (PDF) on the subject of "Washing today", which also deals with the environmental issue from around page 16 onwards.
I hope you will find further useful information there.
Kind regards
Tanja
Thank you Tanja_Migros for your feedback and the relevant information. In my post, I was referring more to the general information situation and used the Beobachter article as just one of many examples.
As a consumer, you don't know what to believe anymore because of all the opinions of experts, industry and studies. I will certainly read the attached document - I have already browsed through it. Unfortunately, the document is from the Cosmetics and Detergents Association, which of course speaks in the interests of the producers and is not an independent party. But still interesting to hear another point of view. The system on this planet should be equally important to everyone - because the industry can make money for longer if it makes products that respect the environment - otherwise it's a short-term strategy for me.
I think the "relatively new" TOTAL Sensitive detergent is great. Is a TOTAL Black Sensitive (for black laundry) also planned?
Guest
Hello Susanne91
Thank you for your inquiry. I'll be happy to find out more for you.
Kind regards
Tanja
Thanks Tanja for the feedback and the forwarding - after my birthday I still like to take it ;-) No stress
Guest
Hello DomiDeLuxe
I have received the following information from those responsible for the product range:
Enzymes are natural substances obtained from microorganisms such as bacteria or yeasts and have been used in detergents for many years. They are organic compounds that promote the metabolism. Protein, starch and fat-containing stains such as milk, blood, cocoa, sauces or sweat are broken down biologically by enzymes.
Modern developments in biotechnology have made it possible to produce suitable enzymes faster and more cheaply using genetic engineering. As a result, genetically engineered enzymes for detergents are almost exclusively available on the global market. The enzymes themselves are not modified and as such are the same as in conventional production. They are easily degraded in nature and therefore pose no risk to humans or the environment.
Legislation does not prescribe the declaration of these enzymes; however, Migros has voluntarily decided to declare them in the interests of open customer information. The other detergent producers also use genetically engineered enzymes, but do not declare them.
If you still want to use an alternative detergent: Our Yvette Care does not contain any enzymes. Sometimes we at Migros can fulfill birthday wishes super fast ;-)
Kind regards
Tanja
Dear Tanja
I am very grateful that Migros provides such precise information on ingredients and this encourages me to shop at Migros.
As a consumer / end user, I once again don't know what to believe. I have found exactly the opposite in various sources to what you received from the product range manager. For example, an excerpt from an Beobachter article:
...especially as many detergents contain genetically modified enzymes. During their production, it cannot be ruled out that genetically modified genetic material will be released into the environment and transferred to other organisms. "Nobody knows what happens then, and there is hardly any research into it"... Source:http://www.beobachter.ch/konsum/artikel/haushalt_mit-reinem-gewissen-waschen/
Good morning,
Or do as I do (allergic to various ingredients in detergents, shower gels, soaps etc.): --> Use so-called "Indian soap nuts" to wash your laundry. Simply put 4-5 shells in a small cloth bag and put them in the washing machine. This will clean normally soiled laundry. Only white laundry lacks the bleaching effect (which is why I hardly have any white laundry). So the problem regarding GMOs would not even exist (even if the production/harvesting of these soap nuts growing on the tree probably cannot be controlled down to the last detail, but there are also those that are produced under a label...). In any case, I have been washing my laundry with soap nuts for years and have not experienced any allergic reactions that I have had to attribute to detergents.
PS: Soapnuts can also be used in the dishwasher for cleaning (works, except for burnt-on food and the like...).
PS 2: Soapnuts can also be made into a small stock (put approx. 10 - 15 soapnuts in a small pan, add approx. 1 - 1.5 liters of water and bring to the boil). This decoction can then be used to treat pests, e.g. aphids on hibiscus (simply spray onto the plant in a hand sprayer). I have tried this myself with success - the aphids were gone after 2 applications.
LG
Thanks Tinu77 for the tip with the soap nuts - apart from my many intolerances, I tolerate Total detergent - in my case 1 for All - well. I would still be interested in a response from Migrios to the Beobachter article.
Guest
Hello@Migrosnaut
I apologize that you had to wait so long for feedback from us here.
The Beobachter article dates back to 2004 and is therefore no longer up to date. Migros offered the modular system described in the article, but it did not catch on.
The Swiss Cosmetics and Detergents Association has produced a publication (PDF) on the subject of "Washing today", which also deals with the environmental issue from around page 16 onwards.
I hope you will find further useful information there.
Kind regards
Tanja
Thank you Tanja_Migros for your feedback and the relevant information. In my post, I was referring more to the general information situation and used the Beobachter article as just one of many examples.
As a consumer, you don't know what to believe anymore because of all the opinions of experts, industry and studies. I will certainly read the attached document - I have already browsed through it. Unfortunately, the document is from the Cosmetics and Detergents Association, which of course speaks in the interests of the producers and is not an independent party. But still interesting to hear another point of view. The system on this planet should be equally important to everyone - because the industry can make money for longer if it makes products that respect the environment - otherwise it's a short-term strategy for me.
I think the "relatively new" TOTAL Sensitive detergent is great. Is a TOTAL Black Sensitive (for black laundry) also planned?
Guest
Hello Susanne91
Thank you for your inquiry. I'll be happy to find out more for you.
Kind regards
Tanja
