Self-scanning control sample Migros ("Subito")
Selfscanning-Kontrolle Stichprobe Migros («Subito»)
Question: What happens if the sales assistant makes a mistake during the self-scanning random check, or if the device malfunctions and does not read the item correctly or is accidentally scanned twice? 1. Is the customer allowed to request a follow-up check after a self-scanning random check, where each product is scanned individually? 2. Where can the customer see if something has gone wrong? Is it written on the receipt whether everything went correctly during the random check? Or does the customer not find this out? 3. how does the customer find out whether he has slipped into a worse trust level, can he ask what his status is, and if so, where? At Coop, the random samples are shown on the receipt, including errors or OK. At Migros, customers are left in the dark.
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The random check is pure coincidence - this applies not only to irregularities in the order, but also to the total amount and the number of items. The absolute winner for me was 1 item at CHF 2.90 during self-scanning - the checker even had to laugh.... Important: I always note the total amount before I put the scanner in the station and can say that it was always correct for all the checks and I never had a full check, except for this one item at CHF 2.90....
The random check is pure coincidence - this applies not only to irregularities in the order, but also to the total amount and the number of items. The absolute winner for me was 1 item at CHF 2.90 during self-scanning - the checker even had to laugh.... Important: I always note the total amount before I put the scanner in the station and can say that it was always correct for all the checks and I never had a full check, except for this one item at CHF 2.90....
It wasn't a full check, so it's no use remembering the final amount. I always shop with a shopping list. Before I put the scanner in the station, I go through every item on the scanner again. The lady scanned an item during the checkout and then her device went crazy. There was an alarm sound. Then she started again from the beginning. Completely non-transparent? I will probably take a photo of the scanner display in future so that I am protected from such chaotic checks.

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It wasn't a full check, so it's no use remembering the final amount. I always shop with a shopping list. Before I put the scanner in the station, I go through every item on the scanner again. The lady scanned an item during the checkout and then her device went crazy. There was an alarm sound. Then she started again from the beginning. Completely non-transparent? I will probably take a photo of the scanner display in future so that I am protected from such chaotic checks.
@Loxiran : Too bad that Migros doesn't say anything - therefore my version: Just a guess... Before I put the scanner in the station, I memorize the franc amount on it - at 95.65 I memorize 95 ! The checker randomly fishes items out of it - just (for me) not all of them ... So far she has said - it's good or similar, I see 95.65 on the display - ok for me then (because the franc amount is correct) and that's it... But what interests me more about these checks - precisely because there is no full check - is the following fact: It is much more likely that an article is forgotten, but the fact that an article is scanned twice or too much by mistake... I would be really interested to know whether you are also made aware of this or Migros says to itself "Bingo - we caught that one"... This double scanning (even more so with double checkout !!! ) happens if you press and hold the barcode on the display for too long (or hold and move the barcode for too long during checkout) I would be pleased to hear a response from Migros....
@Loxiran : Too bad that Migros doesn't say anything - therefore my version: Just a guess... Before I put the scanner in the station, I memorize the franc amount on it - at 95.65 I memorize 95 ! The checker randomly fishes items out of it - just (for me) not all of them ... So far she has said - it's good or similar, I see 95.65 on the display - ok for me then (because the franc amount is correct) and that's it... But what interests me more about these checks - precisely because there is no full check - is the following fact: It is much more likely that an article is forgotten, but the fact that an article is scanned twice or too much by mistake... I would be really interested to know whether you are also made aware of this or Migros says to itself "Bingo - we caught that one"... This double scanning (even more so with double checkout !!! ) happens if you press and hold the barcode on the display for too long (or hold and move the barcode for too long during checkout) I would be pleased to hear a response from Migros....
Another disturbing aspect is the fact that a simply trained cashier takes on police duties. If she makes a mistake (double scan, etc.), I may be falsely accused and face criminal charges and a lifetime ban from the store.

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Another disturbing aspect is the fact that a simply trained cashier takes on police duties. If she makes a mistake (double scan, etc.), I may be falsely accused and face criminal charges and a lifetime ban from the store.
I don't believe in these strict measures on the part of Migros: the checking staff can very well differentiate between accident and intent - especially when a second person or even a child is present, misunderstandings can occur, and shopping alone is definitely safer. In the past, a receipt on the scales at the meat counter always resulted in a check... or it was believed when an item had to be canceled. But that's not the case (anymore) - but a word about canceling: If an item is canceled, you always have to confirm it! The funny thing is, if you buy a second item of the same price in addition, you don't need a confirmation in the sense of "Do you really want to buy 2 items?" - this would also prevent erroneous double scanning... Despite everything: I don't take my eyes off the shopping cart - someone could play a "trick" and put something in the scales... or unintentionally put something in my trolley instead of their own.
I don't believe in these strict measures on the part of Migros: the checking staff can very well differentiate between accident and intent - especially when a second person or even a child is present, misunderstandings can occur, and shopping alone is definitely safer. In the past, a receipt on the scales at the meat counter always resulted in a check... or it was believed when an item had to be canceled. But that's not the case (anymore) - but a word about canceling: If an item is canceled, you always have to confirm it! The funny thing is, if you buy a second item of the same price in addition, you don't need a confirmation in the sense of "Do you really want to buy 2 items?" - this would also prevent erroneous double scanning... Despite everything: I don't take my eyes off the shopping cart - someone could play a "trick" and put something in the scales... or unintentionally put something in my trolley instead of their own.
I think so too, it can easily happen that you pay for an item twice because it has been scanned twice by mistake. The sales staff should be transparent during the check. At Coop it is clearly shown whether a check has taken place and whether errors have been made, but not at Migros. I have no control over whether the person carrying out the check has done everything correctly.
I think so too, it can easily happen that you pay for an item twice because it has been scanned twice by mistake. The sales staff should be transparent during the check. At Coop it is clearly shown whether a check has taken place and whether errors have been made, but not at Migros. I have no control over whether the person carrying out the check has done everything correctly.
Hello everyone Customers who use the Subito system may be subject to random sampling. This is also indicated in the Subito systems. Important: If a product has not been scanned during these random checks, we generally assume that this was an oversight. In other words - mistakes can happen - everyone who buys to the best of their knowledge and belief is doing everything right. However, it is also clear that further steps will be investigated in the event of non-compliance or repeated misconduct. You can also find detailed information in the GTCs: https://www.migros.ch/de/services/zahlungsmoeglichkeiten/subito.html#heading-self-scanning I cannot give you any more details about our security measures. Best regards Sebastian
Hello everyone Customers who use the Subito system may be subject to random sampling. This is also indicated in the Subito systems. Important: If a product has not been scanned during these random checks, we generally assume that this was an oversight. In other words - mistakes can happen - everyone who buys to the best of their knowledge and belief is doing everything right. However, it is also clear that further steps will be investigated in the event of non-compliance or repeated misconduct. You can also find detailed information in the GTCs: https://www.migros.ch/de/services/zahlungsmoeglichkeiten/subito.html#heading-self-scanning I cannot give you any more details about our security measures. Best regards Sebastian
Sebastian_Migros Please answer my questions. Thank you ❤️ 1. May the customer request a follow-up check after a self-scanning random check, where each product is scanned individually? 2. Where can the customer even see if something has gone wrong? Is it written on the receipt whether everything went correctly during the random check? Or does the customer not find this out? 3. how does the customer find out whether he has slipped into a lower trust level, can he ask what his status is, and if so, where?
Sebastian_Migros Please answer my questions. Thank you ❤️ 1. May the customer request a follow-up check after a self-scanning random check, where each product is scanned individually? 2. Where can the customer even see if something has gone wrong? Is it written on the receipt whether everything went correctly during the random check? Or does the customer not find this out? 3. how does the customer find out whether he has slipped into a lower trust level, can he ask what his status is, and if so, where?
Hi @Loxiran To 1: When the employee goes through the products during the inspection, you are there to see what and how she checks. To 2: See answer 1 To 3: These are questions relating to our safety procedures. We do not provide any information on this - thank you for your understanding. Best regards Sebastian
Hi @Loxiran To 1: When the employee goes through the products during the inspection, you are there to see what and how she checks. To 2: See answer 1 To 3: These are questions relating to our safety procedures. We do not provide any information on this - thank you for your understanding. Best regards Sebastian
No, I don't see it. Her scanner was making "beeps". I asked what was wrong. She waved her arms around and said that her scanner wasn't reading the product properly. Then she pressed around and started again from the beginning. When I wanted to know what the problem was, she said that maybe it was my fault and that I hadn't read the product at all. I told her that I double-checked every single product on my shopping list and ticked off whether it had been read. Then she suddenly said that everything was fine. Nevertheless, I still have the nagging feeling that I have been unfairly accused. In future, I will probably have to take a photo of the scanner display so that I can prove that I did everything right when I go to checkout.