Harmful air pollutants. Looking for room fragrance spray, organic eco without allergens, without particles?

Schädliche Luftverpester. Gesucht Raumduft-Spray, Bio Öko ohne Allergene, ohne Partikel?

I have a request for Migros, would it be possible for Migros to develop an organic room fragrance spray without allergens, without particles? Or is there something like that at Alnatura?

Unfortunately, what is currently in the range is not very healthy:
https://www.ktipp.ch/artikel/d/schaedliche-luftverpester/

Migros' M-Fresh room fragrance citrus spray can release 32 times as many particles into the lungs.

The consequences: Eczema, coughing, shortness of breath
"Particles smaller than 10 micrometres are fundamentally dangerous because these tiny particles are not intended for the lungs," says Karl Klingler, a doctor specializing in lung diseases, adding: "The link between tiny particles and asthma has been proven." Jan-Olaf Gebbers, head physician at Lucerne Cantonal Hospital, also describes sprays as a "huge problem": "It's stressful for the body to inhale a dose of particulate matter at every turn, be it cigarette smoke, exhaust fumes or particles from sprays."

Room sprays also contain fragrances that trigger allergies. "Fragrances are a growing problem," explains Brunello Wüthrich, dermatologist and allergist. "They can cause allergic reactions on the skin, for example eczema." If fragrances are sprayed, eczema can develop on the face in rare cases in highly sensitized allergy sufferers. "It is also known that some asthmatics react with coughing and shortness of breath."

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Guest

Hello

If you really want a fragrance spray without the usual poisonous chemicals, there is little choice but to make it yourself. I rummaged around a bit and found instructions on how to make it.

4 parts water, 1 part high-proof schnapps (50% vodka, grain) and some essential oil. Ultimately between 10% and 15% alcohol. Pour the whole thing into a small atomizer bottle and your own room spray is ready.
If you like it fruity, use fruit brandy, if you like it exotic, use rum. The higher the alcohol content, the sooner the fragrance will evaporate, and the fragrances of the oils can be mixed according to taste or bought ready-made.

You can also put the mixture in a decorative vase and insert decorative wooden sticks or dried flowers. These suck up the mixture at the bottom, which evaporates continuously at the top.

You can find small atomizers or pump spray bottles in stores, as well as essential oils. You could also make the oils yourself, there is a lot of literature on the subject.

Greetings from the Migi piglet

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Frederica

Hello @Loxiran

Unpleasant odours in the household can easily be neutralized with cat litter.
Fill an old sock with cat litter and place it in stuffy footsteps; cupboards, bins, drawers, cupboards and much more. Even the fridge smells better when a bowl of litter is in there. Change the litter every week before it becomes damp.

For an aromatized toilet: How about a drop of eucalyptus oil in the toilet bowl. Works wonders.

I have "vasistdas" in the wet rooms, which are tilted in the warm season next to the always open doors. If a person leaves a bad scent, I take a Nelly perfume bottle and put a drop in the room in question. After that, it smells fine.

Best regards
Istanbul

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Guest

Hello @Loxiran

Sorry I haven't contacted you yet. I am already in the process of clarifying your question. However, I have not yet received any feedback from those responsible for the product range.

As soon as I hear something, I'll get back to you here.

Best regards

Tanja

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Loxiran

Hello @Tanja_Migros
I am pleased to hear from you.

I browsed through today and found what I was looking for.

Alnatura offers room sprays from Farfalla
. They are available in different fragrance variations.
http://www.farfalla.ch/chde/natuerliche-raumduefte.html
Farfalla products are sustainable, organic and made in Switzerland:
"Certified Sustainable Economics" - the sustainability certification
The CSE label is the first sustainability seal of certified corporate management and, unlike product certifications, refers to the entire company. It stands for responsible corporate decisions that are made in harmony with all corporate environments. The three dimensions of sustainability - environmental, social and economic - are equally important core competencies for a certified company and are continuously improved. The Society for Applied Business Ethics and the CSE label audited all areas of Farfalla and certified them as "sustainable".

Your clarifications may be useful after all. It would be practical if Migros supermarkets (and not just Alnatura) could offer sustainable products instead of harmful ones?

LG
Loxiran

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Guest

Hello

When awarding the CSE seal, the focus is not on the quality of the product, but on the quality of the company management. Three aspects are assessed: Ecology, social and economic. For example, the aim is to ensure that green electricity is used, that men and women work on an equal footing and that financial transactions are only carried out at ethically sound banks. Social equality would also be represented by unisex toilets within the company, for which companies could be awarded CSE. However, this would not have improved the quality of the products. The CSE seal was founded by Aries, Botanica, Börlind, Farfalla, Logocos and OceanBasis and these six companies label their products with it themselves. This means that CSE-certified products are anything but independent, let alone more recommendable or sustainable than those that do not carry the CSE label. In 2012, Ökotest already deemed the CSE label to be dubious in connection with Börlind.

But the buyers apparently want some meaningless seal, as well as any organic lie in their purchase decision. After all, the most important thing about a product is a label to show others how "responsible" you are.

Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet
who once again sees Kant's statements on immaturity confirmed.

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Loxiran

Hello @deactivated user
I am aware that this is a compromise. But if I have to make something myself, the ingredients such as vodka or cat litter etc. are not always low in harmful substances either. Take cat litter, for example: it contains high levels of the harmful heavy metals nickel, thallium and/or cobalt. These can enter the body if the dust is inhaled. Essential oils are characterized in particular by their toxic effects on the central nervous system, kidneys and respiratory tract, etc. The Farfalla comes at least from Switzerland.

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YB-Fan

With essential oil (approx. 10 drops per 1 dl), water and a little vodka, you can make a very pleasant room spray yourself. It also has an antibacterial or relaxing effect.

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Guest

Hello Loxiran

So, Farfalla's essential oils made from sandalwood, frangipani, niaouli, cardamom, myrrh, Arabian and Indian frankincense or Himalayan cedar come from Switzerland? Where exactly in Switzerland do these plants grow? Some are even labeled "wild collection". :-) Do you really think the Farfalla stuff is made in Switzerland? At best, it is bottled, labeled and made ready for dispatch here.
Farfalla is just expensive and the CSE seal, which it helped to develop, is not worth a damn because it is not independent and is not established throughout the industry. In any case, natural cosmetics are not clearly defined and are therefore a playground for black sheep. Probably not even the dropper bottles or spray bottles or the outer packaging of the products come from Switzerland.

Pure alcoholic beverages from 100% Switzerland can be bought. There are quite a few distilleries that distil regional products, where you can even visit the distillery. Some even allow you to distil your own fruit in small quantities. It couldn't be more sustainable.

Essential oils can of course have a toxic effect if they are overdosed or used incorrectly. Never treat a cat with tea tree oil, otherwise the cat may practice the dead man position. :-)
There are only a few drops of essential oil in a deciliter of room fragrance. With such a dilution, the toxicity is low to negligible when used properly. With a little imagination and playfulness, you can also test and experience this yourself. Inhaled steam from three drops of mint oil in two liters of hot water works wonders for a nasty cold. Three drops of undiluted mint oil on certain parts of the body during erotic adventures can be a burning challenge. :-) So much for the effect of dilution. If you want to recreate the test, you should inform yourself and your partner in detail beforehand, otherwise embarrassing explanations in the emergency room cannot be ruled out. :-)

But if you want to believe that the room fragrance you have found is the last word in wisdom, then believe it. You are supporting the business profits of a company that is taxable in Switzerland. Whether their expenses are also patriotic, however, should be doubted with the above-mentioned and similar offers.

Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet

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Loxiran

Hello @deactivated user

It is clear to me that the ingredients for the production of the oils do not grow in Switzerland. I only mentioned that Farfalla is a Swiss company and the products are processed/bottled in Switzerland. As I said, it is "my" compromise. It seems to me to be more environmentally friendly than a machine like a "Water Air Freshener", where energy and plastics etc. first have to be used for production.

I also don't see why I should buy plants for the bathroom, where there is no daylight.
What's more, the plants you suggested don't come from Switzerland either.
For example:
Chlorophytum comosum is from South Africa,
Sansevieria trifasciata is from Central Africa,
Spathiphyllum is from tropical America, the Philippines, Solomon Islands
Schlumbergera truncata is from Brazil
Gerbera is from Africa, Madagascar, tropical Asia, South Africa

As I said, I understand all your arguments and I am fundamentally in favor of fair and organic and sustainability. Farfalla is a compromise in my eyes and I know the downsides, just as all the other alternatives suggested here can also have their downsides. Thank you again for your well-intentioned suggestions.

In the end, I got what I was looking for:
"Harmful air polluters. Looking for room fragrance spray, organic eco without allergens, without particles?"
found. Whether eco-product manufacturers such as Farfalla, Sante, Logona, Lavera etc. should be avoided because they are not "eco" enough is another matter.

Greetings
Loxiran

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Alteshaus

Burn a match and the smell is gone immediately! I find it completely unnecessary to use anything like that myself. But if you want it to be finer:
http://www.farfalla.ch/chde/ueber-farfalla/

The ones from Fafalla are wonderful, I know from my best friend who uses them.

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