For example, can migros not pack pasta in cartons? And eliminate plastic? And other things too.
The main thing that bothers me about the plastic in pasta packaging is how fragile it is and then somehow tears. But overall, I'm not exactly thrilled about everything that is increasingly being packed directly in cardboard without plastic. No more plastic means that I have to throw the box in the garbage bin because we're not allowed to recycle greased boxes.
Hello Tarzan84, thank you for your question. Cardboard packaging has the disadvantage that it is no longer possible to view the product. However, many of our customers want this. Paper packaging is not an alternative due to its lack of tear resistance. With the plastic packaging currently used, we are trying to reduce plastic consumption with thinner films. Our top priority is product safety. Kind regards, Luisa
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Hello Tarzan84, thank you for your question. Cardboard packaging has the disadvantage that it is no longer possible to view the product. However, many of our customers want this. Paper packaging is not an alternative due to its lack of tear resistance. With the plastic packaging currently used, we are trying to reduce plastic consumption with thinner films. Our top priority is product safety. Kind regards, Luisa
Cardboard for pasta, whether this is the solution I doubt very much, because please think about what it is made of
Pasta from brands such as Agnesi (Migros) and Barilla (Coop) is largely sold in cardboard packaging, and has been for many decades and, as far as I know, without any major problems. To ensure that all objections are covered, the cardboard is not coated and therefore recyclable, and the boxes have a viewing window. But where was the problem? https://produkte.migros.ch/sortiment/supermarkt/lebensmittel/pasta-zutaten-konserven?facets=brand~agnesi
Pasta from brands such as Agnesi (Migros) and Barilla (Coop) is largely sold in cardboard packaging, and has been for many decades and, as far as I know, without any major problems. To ensure that all objections are covered, the cardboard is not coated and therefore recyclable, and the boxes have a viewing window. But where was the problem? https://produkte.migros.ch/sortiment/supermarkt/lebensmittel/pasta-zutaten-konserven?facets=brand~agnesi
Hello sirio60, thank you very much for your message. As you correctly write, plastic is also required for cardboard packaging. In order to be able to recycle the cardboard correctly, the viewing window would have to be removed. In our experience, however, this is rarely done and the costs of switching to cardboard packaging are very high. New equipment would have to be purchased. We are not against it in principle, but the changeover for environmental reasons must also result in a truly sustainable change. We are currently working on this. Various test phases and material tests are necessary before we can definitely make the switch. Kind regards, Richi
Hello sirio60, thank you very much for your message. As you correctly write, plastic is also required for cardboard packaging. In order to be able to recycle the cardboard correctly, the viewing window would have to be removed. In our experience, however, this is rarely done and the costs of switching to cardboard packaging are very high. New equipment would have to be purchased. We are not against it in principle, but the changeover for environmental reasons must also result in a truly sustainable change. We are currently working on this. Various test phases and material tests are necessary before we can definitely make the switch. Kind regards, Richi
Thank you for your answer. As long as the recycled material does not exceed normal household quantities, it is no longer absolutely necessary to remove the viewing windows. Modern systems must be able to automatically separate out foreign material (just think of the many large cardboard boxes that are still covered with lots of adhesive tape and sometimes staples when they are disposed of). Window envelopes can also be disposed of together with the window. As far as I know, the adhesive materials are more problematic than the plastic films. However, consumers can do little about this on their own initiative. https://www.altpapier.ch/d/recycling-durchblick/positiv-negativlisten/positivliste
Thank you for your answer. As long as the recycled material does not exceed normal household quantities, it is no longer absolutely necessary to remove the viewing windows. Modern systems must be able to automatically separate out foreign material (just think of the many large cardboard boxes that are still covered with lots of adhesive tape and sometimes staples when they are disposed of). Window envelopes can also be disposed of together with the window. As far as I know, the adhesive materials are more problematic than the plastic films. However, consumers can do little about this on their own initiative. https://www.altpapier.ch/d/recycling-durchblick/positiv-negativlisten/positivliste
Hey in important topic i saw on tv this week. https://www.sein.de/news/2017/01/plastikverbot-in-ruanda/
Hey in important topic i saw on tv this week. https://www.sein.de/news/2017/01/plastikverbot-in-ruanda/
@Tarzan84 Thanks for the article, it's very interesting.
Hello sirio60, thank you very much for your message. As you correctly write, plastic is also required for cardboard packaging. In order to be able to recycle the cardboard correctly, the viewing window would have to be removed. In our experience, however, this is rarely done and the costs of switching to cardboard packaging are very high. New equipment would have to be purchased. We are not against it in principle, but the changeover for environmental reasons must also result in a truly sustainable change. We are currently working on this. Various test phases and material tests are necessary before we can definitely make the switch. Kind regards, Richi
Dear Migros I thought it wouldn't hurt to give this topic another go. I recently received a bag of pasta as a gift that was made of paper/cardboard - with a small plastic viewing window. I think it's a great idea. https://haerzbluet-pasta.ch/produkt/ Unfortunately, I can't say to what extent the inside of the bag was covered in plastic or not, but it might be worth pursuing such an approach, don't you think? Of course, plastic is also used here, but obviously less than in your current packaging for pasta. And paper is made from renewable raw materials, unlike plastic, which is of fossil origin. It would be really great if something could be done about this :-) Best regards, Oli
Dear Migros I thought it wouldn't hurt to give this topic another go. I recently received a bag of pasta as a gift that was made of paper/cardboard - with a small plastic viewing window. I think it's a great idea. https://haerzbluet-pasta.ch/produkt/ Unfortunately, I can't say to what extent the inside of the bag was covered in plastic or not, but it might be worth pursuing such an approach, don't you think? Of course, plastic is also used here, but obviously less than in your current packaging for pasta. And paper is made from renewable raw materials, unlike plastic, which is of fossil origin. It would be really great if something could be done about this :-) Best regards, Oli
Hello sierra2011 Thank you for your good suggestion and the link you sent. I immediately looked into this with the people responsible. We definitely think the packaging is a good thing too. We try to optimize all our packaging; unfortunately, this is not always so easy, as a changeover sometimes requires new machines, which is associated with costs. But we are working on it and will continue to pursue this approach - we will also check whether we can implement this pasta packaging in this way. I wish you a happy new year! Best wishes, Angela
