Migros supports questionable organizations ...

Migros unterstützt fragwürdige Organisationen ...

Guest

... like Pro Juventute now, for example. Has Migros management suppressed the fact that Pro Juventute abused children? Has the "Kinder der Landstrasse" mess already been forgotten?

It is more than sad that people in Switzerland commit such criminal acts every few years (children of the country road, the forcibly sterilized women, in the 1970s .... and up to the present day, other similar disgraces). Neither the "children of the country road" nor the forcibly sterilized women were ever even compensated ... and there are still dirty people and organizations in Switzerland that harass and abuse other people.

Why does Migros support this?

When will we finally stop hypocritically pretending "cleanliness", humanity and decency while people continue to be victimized?

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Imperator

Of course, history must not be forgotten.
But some of this was decades ago.
A lot has changed in the meantime and for the better.
We should also not forget the positive things, such as the helpline
for children and young people, because these are absolutely to be supported.
So you don't have to have a bad conscience if you support this organization.

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Guest

As long as the victims are not compensated, I remain convinced that Pro Juventute is a dirty store that has abused children. It is outrageous of Migros to even force its customers to donate ... On November 20, I will NOT be shopping at Migros but at Aldi!

We must finally learn that Switzerland, which presents itself as sooooo, decent and humane in the world, commits some kind of mess every few years that would be a disgrace even for North Korea!

There is not only the Projuventute child abuse, but also the forced abortions and sterilized women of the 1970s and now currently, the businessmen who are harassed and abused and of whom, so far, only one has received compensation.

We Swiss need to stop holding ourselves up as humane role models while we regularly abuse human rights in our own country, while we create "jobs" with the arms trade and while we help dictators and mafia bosses to exploit their fellow countrymen by protecting the otherwise non-existent "banking secrecy" for these criminals.

Migros should be ashamed of itself for supporting such questionable organizations as Pro Juventute.

It is also unbelievable that Migros is increasingly trying to force its customers to "donate" ... With the old "Hitler", in the neighboring country to the north, it was also a method of coercing people to "donate".

As a member of the cooperative, a Migros customer and the great-grandson of a friend of Gottlieb Duttweiler, I have the right to decide for myself whether I want to donate something and to whom. Migros does not have the right to force its customers to donate and impose any organizations on them.

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Guest

@deactivated user

All readers here accept that they shop at Aldi ! - that is your free decision!

Nevertheless, I would like to point out to you that Karl Albrecht, the founder of Aldi Süd - and thus also Aldi Switzerland - "was involved in the Russian campaign of 1941 as an active front-line fighter" (Wikipedia).
However, you should not take this as a call for a boycott, but only as an indication of how abstruse such calls for a boycott are!

In any case, I continue to support Pro Juventute, even in the retrospective knowledge that many things could have been better. I find the comparisons: North Korea, Hitler and Migros in the same breath absolutely out of place.

Why don't you write your pamphlets against Switzerland in SPON in future? That's a better platform for such articles than Migipedia.

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Guest

2wef17 Akdi is not a "child protection organization" that has "forgotten* its missteps or would like to forget them. Aldi is a commercial organization that, like almost all larger companies, has certainly made a few missteps. But Aldi does not pride itself on charitable actions.

I do not support "charity" that leads to excesses. The comparison with regimes that also mime or have mimed "charity" is quite realistic.

When will Pro Juventute finally compensate the families who have been abused? When will the women who were aborted and sterilized by other Swiss "benefactors" in the 1970s finally receive compensation and an apology?

When will Switzerland stop tolerating new outrages again and again?

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Imperator

And Aldi has often attracted attention by undermining Swiss labor law.
Bad employment contracts and poor wages are normal there.
But this doesn't seem to matter, even though children in the families are also affected.
are also affected.
In addition, German companies and others are no better, on the contrary,
rather worse.

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Guest

This is not about abuses at Aldi (and at all major distributors and large companies) in the personnel area, but about Migros forcing its customers to donate. By visiting Migros, I am NOT giving Migros permission to donate something to a supposed charity organization because of my visit to Migros.

If I donate something to someone, then I decide for myself what I donate to whom.

For me, this absurd donation campaign is tantamount to a temporary hasu ban. I don't support any organization that has abused children in the past.

The accumulation of all kinds of fundraising campaigns, games of chance and collection campaigns is not only a nonsensical idea, but also patronizing customers, who are being forced into fundraising campaigns and forced to buy garbage.

Aldi and Lidl are role models in these areas: they only sell customers what they need. They deliberately avoid any kind of fundraising campaign and there is no garbage to collect.

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Guest

Now the penny has dropped for me! ------ But since I don't read the posters put up in Migros (was that the case ?), so I'm pretty jaded about advertising, I unfortunately didn't have this background knowledge...

I thought to myself : will be some kind of donation from Migros - out of many donations to charitable organizations or parties ... but why is the person so angry that they even pull out the Hitler .... Then I wondered if you were a victim of abuse (yourself or in your closest circle) -- but then surely you would have said it as your own argument, so rather no... and that's why I didn't understand your anger....

It wasn't until your last text that I realized what you were trying to say -- SORRY !!!.
If I understand you correctly, it is not the donation itself (even if you would NEVER approve of it yourself in individual cases) but that Migros donates EXPLICITLY IN MY NAME (albeit anonymously), i.e. a kind of "MENTAL VIOLATION" !
Now I understand your anger !!! - I don't need that either, not because of Pro Juventute, BUT BECAUSE OF PRINCIPLE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

P,S, I wasn't in Migros today - by chance. Even when I was at school, these obligatory collection campaigns "pissed me off" -- also on principle!

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Guest

@wef17 Yes, now we are on the same track! Thank you!

When I was at school, I too didn't take part in "obligatory" collecting campaigns or buying any pious picture books. My mother also had no interest in class photos, where the aim was to open up a market for a photographer.

Hence my comparison with the "mores" of Adoof's NAZI's and our "friend", the really big Mao-Ze-Tung, whose little red book (as well as the literary outpourings of old "Adoof") did not and would not have found a "market" with me.

A few weeks ago, I could only buy a crust wreath in Migros that was linked to a "donation" to some "aid organization" OR an organic crust wreath that tends to go mouldy.

And now Migros has introduced another day where my visit to Migros triggers a mandatory donation.

I simply don't want to be held up as a reason for any donations. And if Migros donates something "because of me", then I want to choose where the money goes, or I have a right to a price reduction if I don't want to donate.

It's also rather awkward that Migros has chosen an organization that once used donations to fund child abuse.

It really is a kind of "mental rape" when you trigger donations that you don't want by visiting a store.

I am European and not Chinese. I don't wave flags and I don't walk in step. If I want to donate something to someone, I decide for myself.

The situation where you can no longer buy bread because you don't want to support a certain organization is, for me, totally perverse!

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trixvi

I was committed to selling Pro Juventute stamps and was often top of my class (which I never managed in school). Later, when I heard about the children of the country road, I felt betrayed - and this feeling has not gone away to this day!

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Guest

It may be that there are also clumsy people atLlidl who want to make a name for themselves with some sticky labels or donation campaigns.

It's a matter of principle for me: I want to decide for myself whether and to whom I donate something and I don't want to finance campaigns that produce garbage.

You can hardly go into a store anymore where you won't be abused for some lazy fundraising campaign.

The whole thing is also additional discrimination and unfair competition, from small stores that can't suck up with such crap games and fake "willingness to donate". .

I also don't want to be constantly asked on Facebook or a similar site for stupid, profile-addicted people that I also have to "like" their shit ... I don't live in the days of old Comrade Mao and I think that next to the button "beautiful-great-good-I like it", there should also be a button "awful-bullshit-I don't like it".

I don't want to live in a society where you have to find everything and everyone "good" because otherwise you don't "belong".

It's Migros' job to sell goods ... Begging is forbidden in shopping centers. Why doesn't Migros stick to its own rules? ...

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