Dear Migros
Can yoghurt pots be recycled with the milk/plastic bottles at Migros?
Thank you very much!
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Dear Migros
Can yoghurt pots be recycled with the milk/plastic bottles at Migros?
Thank you very much!
zzz
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Dear Migros
Can yoghurt pots be recycled with the milk/plastic bottles at Migros?
Thank you very much!
zzz
Dear Migros
Can yoghurt pots be recycled with the milk/plastic bottles at Migros?
Thank you very much!
zzz
Guest
Hello
Regarding the recycling of beverage cartons It is correct that it is technically possible to take back Tetra Paks.
So you admit that your original statement was a lie. But concealing something is also a lie and your post conceals a lot. Why can't Migros be honest?
However, it has not yet been proven that this makes sense from an ecological point of view.
This statement is the standard response from opponents and major distributors who want to avoid the take-back. It is based on the first reliable data from the first test phase from 2012 to 2014. However, the amount of data is already larger today and already shows that it makes ecological sense. Migros, as well as several other retail giants, simply do not want to acknowledge this. In Luxembourg, over 80% of drinks cartons are now recycled, in Germany around 65%. The trend is rising in both countries.
Since 2014, a number of other recycling centers have joined the project (voluntarily and self-financing). It is thanks to them that beverage carton collection can now be carried out in a larger catchment area and that measures for recycling much larger quantities can be developed. These efforts and costs are all borne by private donors and small companies. As Migros was fully opposed to this from the outset, support is out of the question. You are also ignoring this fact, or rather the person who ordered the content of your post.
Therefore, with the expected return volumes in the retail trade, additional trips would have to be made by truck to cope with the volume. This would reverse the ecological benefits of collection in the retail trade.
Again, this is only half the truth, as the collection trips currently only deliver to one location. As soon as the system is applied across the board and several paper mills recycle, there will be enormous added value from the newly available raw materials.
Furthermore, additional costs are incurred for handling and other costs arising from this collection (new containers in the sales outlets, storage space in the distribution centers and possibly new baling presses) must be taken into account. The financing of the entire system has not been clarified.
Exactly the same argument was made years ago regarding the collection of batteries and electronic waste, which was established nationwide by means of the advance recycling fee. It was only when sales outlets were obliged to take back waste free of charge that they began to develop cost-effective return systems or shift responsibility (outsourcing). However, the collection of beverage cartons can be realized with much lower costs than Migros propagates. People like to argue with half-truths or exaggerated fibs when they want to prevent something. Examples from smaller companies in Switzerland and many large foreign companies confirm cost-effective collections, but the results are always presented by opponents as incomparable. For Migros, it is simply more convenient and cheaper if others do the work of reusing their packaging sensibly. Migros shies away from responsibility and development costs, which is why consumers should dispose of the Tetra-Paks in the garbage and pay bag fees.
In addition to the waste recyclables from the existing separate collections, millions of reusable containers and in-house waste such as cardboard, plastics etc. also have to be returned to the retail trade.
For these types of recyclable materials, it is profitable because Migros can collect the respective materials almost unmixed and thus earn more from them. The collection of drinks cartons would have the same effect if they were recycled at several locations. This can also be seen in foreign practice, but Migros does not want to admit this and therefore conceals this fact or claims the opposite.
It should also be noted that even with recycling, a considerable proportion of Tetra packs will still be sent for thermal recycling (aluminum and plastics).
Wrong, or simply a bold-faced lie! Various technologies already exist for separating aluminum and plastic by type. In the various processes, the shredded aluminum-plastic composites are either separated from each other by means of radiation and catalysts, or cellulose-aluminum-plastic composites are separated by microemulsion. It is precisely on these technologies that the efforts of various countries in recent years to recycle composite materials such as beverage cartons, tubes, batteries, automotive glass (VSG) semiconductor plates and photovoltaic modules themselves, i.e. domestically, and to profit from the newly recovered raw materials, are based.
Migros takes back some waste fractions which it is not legally obliged to do, e.g. cream blower cartridges, CDs/DVDs and resealable plastic bottles.
Migros, however, underestimates the profitability of this; it does this not because it is aware of its responsibility, but because it earns a lot from it. The proportion of foreign matter in cream blower capsules is less than one percent, the rest is metal. In the case of unmixed metal collections, the proportion of foreign materials may be between 3% and 5%, depending on the customer and the price. Taking back these capsules is a very profitable business for Migros.
The same applies to CDs and DVDs. The reflective metal coating contains aluminum, silver and sometimes gold. These metals are dissolved and reused during the recycling process. The remaining plastic disk is made of high-quality polycarbonate, which is a very expensive material among plastics. It is therefore worthwhile for Migros to collect the round pieces.
It is also easy to guarantee the purity of the resealable plastic bottles and the proportion of foreign matter is very low, which is why the collections can be sold as raw materials.
Kind regards from Migi-Ferkel
Guest
Hello
Regarding the recycling of beverage cartons It is correct that it is technically possible to take back Tetra Paks.
So you admit that your original statement was a lie. But concealing something is also a lie and your post conceals a lot. Why can't Migros be honest?
However, it has not yet been proven that this makes sense from an ecological point of view.
This statement is the standard response from opponents and major distributors who want to avoid the take-back. It is based on the first reliable data from the first test phase from 2012 to 2014. However, the amount of data is already larger today and already shows that it makes ecological sense. Migros, as well as several other retail giants, simply do not want to acknowledge this. In Luxembourg, over 80% of drinks cartons are now recycled, in Germany around 65%. The trend is rising in both countries.
Since 2014, a number of other recycling centers have joined the project (voluntarily and self-financing). It is thanks to them that beverage carton collection can now be carried out in a larger catchment area and that measures for recycling much larger quantities can be developed. These efforts and costs are all borne by private donors and small companies. As Migros was fully opposed to this from the outset, support is out of the question. You are also ignoring this fact, or rather the person who ordered the content of your post.
Therefore, with the expected return volumes in the retail trade, additional trips would have to be made by truck to cope with the volume. This would reverse the ecological benefits of collection in the retail trade.
Again, this is only half the truth, as the collection trips currently only deliver to one location. As soon as the system is applied across the board and several paper mills recycle, there will be enormous added value from the newly available raw materials.
Furthermore, additional costs are incurred for handling and other costs arising from this collection (new containers in the sales outlets, storage space in the distribution centers and possibly new baling presses) must be taken into account. The financing of the entire system has not been clarified.
Exactly the same argument was made years ago regarding the collection of batteries and electronic waste, which was established nationwide by means of the advance recycling fee. It was only when sales outlets were obliged to take back waste free of charge that they began to develop cost-effective return systems or shift responsibility (outsourcing). However, the collection of beverage cartons can be realized with much lower costs than Migros propagates. People like to argue with half-truths or exaggerated fibs when they want to prevent something. Examples from smaller companies in Switzerland and many large foreign companies confirm cost-effective collections, but the results are always presented by opponents as incomparable. For Migros, it is simply more convenient and cheaper if others do the work of reusing their packaging sensibly. Migros shies away from responsibility and development costs, which is why consumers should dispose of the Tetra-Paks in the garbage and pay bag fees.
In addition to the waste recyclables from the existing separate collections, millions of reusable containers and in-house waste such as cardboard, plastics etc. also have to be returned to the retail trade.
For these types of recyclable materials, it is profitable because Migros can collect the respective materials almost unmixed and thus earn more from them. The collection of drinks cartons would have the same effect if they were recycled at several locations. This can also be seen in foreign practice, but Migros does not want to admit this and therefore conceals this fact or claims the opposite.
It should also be noted that even with recycling, a considerable proportion of Tetra packs will still be sent for thermal recycling (aluminum and plastics).
Wrong, or simply a bold-faced lie! Various technologies already exist for separating aluminum and plastic by type. In the various processes, the shredded aluminum-plastic composites are either separated from each other by means of radiation and catalysts, or cellulose-aluminum-plastic composites are separated by microemulsion. It is precisely on these technologies that the efforts of various countries in recent years to recycle composite materials such as beverage cartons, tubes, batteries, automotive glass (VSG) semiconductor plates and photovoltaic modules themselves, i.e. domestically, and to profit from the newly recovered raw materials, are based.
Migros takes back some waste fractions which it is not legally obliged to do, e.g. cream blower cartridges, CDs/DVDs and resealable plastic bottles.
Migros, however, underestimates the profitability of this; it does this not because it is aware of its responsibility, but because it earns a lot from it. The proportion of foreign matter in cream blower capsules is less than one percent, the rest is metal. In the case of unmixed metal collections, the proportion of foreign materials may be between 3% and 5%, depending on the customer and the price. Taking back these capsules is a very profitable business for Migros.
The same applies to CDs and DVDs. The reflective metal coating contains aluminum, silver and sometimes gold. These metals are dissolved and reused during the recycling process. The remaining plastic disk is made of high-quality polycarbonate, which is a very expensive material among plastics. It is therefore worthwhile for Migros to collect the round pieces.
It is also easy to guarantee the purity of the resealable plastic bottles and the proportion of foreign matter is very low, which is why the collections can be sold as raw materials.
Kind regards from Migi-Ferkel
Practical tips for separating waste in the household
(there is a nice leaflet on this, link is not allowed. But Auntie google knows what to do -> collection bag)
Important: collected items do not have to be washed out, spoon or broom clean is completely sufficient!
stretch films
fabric softener
Packaging is made up of different types of plastic, e.g. cheese and
meat packaging. Here it makes sense to separate the plastic tray from the lid or closure film so that
plastic tray and lid or closure film so that the sorting machine can recognize both materials separately more easily.
separately.
e.g. Capri-Sun
tubes, shower gel, soap dispensers, refill bags
bottles
...and why not simply avoid Migros and store in stores where the packaging craze has not yet taken hold...?
where the products really come from the region - from the farmer next door (does Migros consider the whole of Switzerland to be a region...??)
and while we're on the subject of sustainability... Modernizing stores is all well and good, but using the most beautiful mats to do it? Instead of building on existing land, the old building will certainly not be demolished. But in the latest issue of the Migros newspaper boasting about the sea of flowers in the industrial zone... only one word comes to mind
Hypocritical
Practical tips for separating waste in the household
(there is a nice leaflet on this, link is not allowed. But Auntie google knows what to do -> collection bag)
Important: collected items do not have to be washed out, spoon or broom clean is completely sufficient!
stretch films
fabric softener
Packaging is made up of different types of plastic, e.g. cheese and
meat packaging. Here it makes sense to separate the plastic tray from the lid or closure film so that
plastic tray and lid or closure film so that the sorting machine can recognize both materials separately more easily.
separately.
e.g. Capri-Sun
tubes, shower gel, soap dispensers, refill bags
bottles
...and why not simply avoid Migros and store in stores where the packaging craze has not yet taken hold...?
where the products really come from the region - from the farmer next door (does Migros consider the whole of Switzerland to be a region...??)
and while we're on the subject of sustainability... Modernizing stores is all well and good, but using the most beautiful mats to do it? Instead of building on existing land, the old building will certainly not be demolished. But in the latest issue of the Migros newspaper boasting about the sea of flowers in the industrial zone... only one word comes to mind
Hypocritical
In Germany you can dispose of these products after use: "empty chips and peanuts". In Switzerland we are always told to look after the environment. We are really lagging behind. For a number of products. I can dispose of empty yogurt pots. But washed out at our "Werkhof".
Practical tips for separating waste in the household
(there is a nice leaflet on this, link is not allowed. But Auntie google knows what to do -> collection bag)
Important: collected items do not have to be washed out, spoon or broom clean is completely sufficient!
stretch films
fabric softener
Packaging is made up of different types of plastic, e.g. cheese and
meat packaging. Here it makes sense to separate the plastic tray from the lid or closure film so that
plastic tray and lid or closure film so that the sorting machine can recognize both materials separately more easily.
separately.
e.g. Capri-Sun
tubes, shower gel, soap dispensers, refill bags
bottles
...and why not simply avoid Migros and store in stores where the packaging craze has not yet taken hold...?
where the products really come from the region - from the farmer next door (does Migros consider the whole of Switzerland to be a region...??)
and while we're on the subject of sustainability... Modernizing stores is all well and good, but using the most beautiful mats to do it? Instead of building on existing land, the old building will certainly not be demolished. But in the latest issue of the Migros newspaper boasting about the sea of flowers in the industrial zone... only one word comes to mind
Hypocritical
Practical tips for separating waste in the household
(there is a nice leaflet on this, link is not allowed. But Auntie google knows what to do -> collection bag)
Important: collected items do not have to be washed out, spoon or broom clean is completely sufficient!
stretch films
fabric softener
Packaging is made up of different types of plastic, e.g. cheese and
meat packaging. Here it makes sense to separate the plastic tray from the lid or closure film so that
plastic tray and lid or closure film so that the sorting machine can recognize both materials separately more easily.
separately.
e.g. Capri-Sun
tubes, shower gel, soap dispensers, refill bags
bottles
...and why not simply avoid Migros and store in stores where the packaging craze has not yet taken hold...?
where the products really come from the region - from the farmer next door (does Migros consider the whole of Switzerland to be a region...??)
and while we're on the subject of sustainability... Modernizing stores is all well and good, but using the most beautiful mats to do it? Instead of building on existing land, the old building will certainly not be demolished. But in the latest issue of the Migros newspaper boasting about the sea of flowers in the industrial zone... only one word comes to mind
Hypocritical
In Germany you can dispose of these products after use: "empty chips and peanuts". In Switzerland we are always told to look after the environment. We are really lagging behind. For a number of products. I can dispose of empty yogurt pots. But washed out at our "Werkhof".
