Origin unclear - Elaboré en Suisse
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The origin of many products simply says Elaboré en Suisse. Why doesn't it say where it was made?
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The origin of many products simply says Elaboré en Suisse. Why doesn't it say where it was made?
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The origin of many products simply says Elaboré en Suisse. Why doesn't it say where it was made?
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A good question - I have similar questions.
For example, agricultural frozen products....
I assume that if it only says "Elaboré en Suisse", the product itself does not necessarily or only partially have to be of Swiss origin (example: peas and carrots from Migros and Findus... as a rule, Belgium is also a product supplier. I'm not questioning Belgian products here, it's also about the whole processing procedure (Elaboré is already a bit general: elaborated, further developed, only packaged, only sample-checked, etc.).
Then there are also garden peas, creamed spinach, beans, etc. from Farmers Best, for example, which also say "Elaboré en Suisse", but also have "from here - Swiss cross - d'ici, da qui..." on the front.
So I HOPE that the product AND the processing are in Switzerland.
It should be even safer for organic products if it says "Swiss peas with carrots" - in my opinion, the product and processing should be in Switzerland.... but you could also ask: Swiss peas with (Belgian...etc) carrots.
I don't even look at M-Budget because it's 100% non-domestic....
My questions for Migros:
How can I tell that the product AND processing involve Switzerland ?
Wouldn't it make sense to put this designation in a uniform place?
A suggestion: Also on the glass front of the freezers - because this helps to protect the product.
What variants are possible for "Elaboré en Suisse" ? only Swiss processing ? or is the product also binding ? - In turn, I assume that "Elaboré enBelgique" can never be a Swiss product behind it ? or am I wrong ?
I have only heard that Parma ham sold in the Netherlands comes from the Netherlands itself and is transported to Italy and back for further processing.... Is this also the case with Swiss foodstuffs (product Switzerland - processing abroad - sale Switzerland... maybe Black Forest ham?
http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft/international/499925/Edler-Prosciutto-feine-Pomodori-made-in-Holland
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A good question - I have similar questions.
For example, agricultural frozen products....
I assume that if it only says "Elaboré en Suisse", the product itself does not necessarily or only partially have to be of Swiss origin (example: peas and carrots from Migros and Findus... as a rule, Belgium is also a product supplier. I'm not questioning Belgian products here, it's also about the whole processing procedure (Elaboré is already a bit general: elaborated, further developed, only packaged, only sample-checked, etc.).
Then there are also garden peas, creamed spinach, beans, etc. from Farmers Best, for example, which also say "Elaboré en Suisse", but also have "from here - Swiss cross - d'ici, da qui..." on the front.
So I HOPE that the product AND the processing are in Switzerland.
It should be even safer for organic products if it says "Swiss peas with carrots" - in my opinion, the product and processing should be in Switzerland.... but you could also ask: Swiss peas with (Belgian...etc) carrots.
I don't even look at M-Budget because it's 100% non-domestic....
My questions for Migros:
How can I tell that the product AND processing involve Switzerland ?
Wouldn't it make sense to put this designation in a uniform place?
A suggestion: Also on the glass front of the freezers - because this helps to protect the product.
What variants are possible for "Elaboré en Suisse" ? only Swiss processing ? or is the product also binding ? - In turn, I assume that "Elaboré enBelgique" can never be a Swiss product behind it ? or am I wrong ?
I have only heard that Parma ham sold in the Netherlands comes from the Netherlands itself and is transported to Italy and back for further processing.... Is this also the case with Swiss foodstuffs (product Switzerland - processing abroad - sale Switzerland... maybe Black Forest ham?
http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft/international/499925/Edler-Prosciutto-feine-Pomodori-made-in-Holland
Dear @daria2 and @wef17
I have received feedback from our quality management. The guidelines are as follows:
"The indication of the country of production is mandatory in Switzerland. The country of production is declared after the note: elabore en:xxx. on the packaging.
A foodstuff is considered to have been produced in a country if it has either been produced entirely in that country or has been processed in that country in such a way that it has retained its characteristic properties.
According to the law, the origin of the raw materials must be declared if the proportion of the raw material exceeds 50% by mass and the presentation of the product gives the impression that the ingredient has an origin that is not the case. Migros also voluntarily declares the origin of mono-products and meat and meat products with at least 20% meat content.
Only processed products in which at least 80% of the weight of the raw materials available in Switzerland originate from Switzerland and which have undergone the main processing step in Switzerland may bear the Swiss cross."
I hope this helps you both. I will be happy to answer any further questions you may have.
Best regards and have a nice afternoon, Nicole
@gruenelinsen
@Nicole_Migroshasdiscussed it.
or
in the Ordinance of the FDHA on information on foodstuffs
(LIV) 817.022.16.
Art. 15 Indication of the country of production
A foodstuff is deemed to have been produced in a country if it was
The following are deemed to have been produced entirely in a country
A foodstuff is deemed to have been sufficiently prepared or processed in this country if it has been processed in this country in such a way that it has thereby acquired its
characteristic properties or a new product name.
Instead of a country of production, a superordinate geographical area such as "EU" or "South America" can be indicated for processed foods.
With regard to the indication of the country of production, sliced mixed products
and honey mixtures are considered processed foods.
In the case of fishery products caught at sea, the catch area in accordance with Annex 4 must be indicated instead of the country of production.
The country of production may be omitted if it is evident from the product description or from the address in accordance with Article 3 paragraph 1 letter g. The minimum requirement for this address is the indication of the country, zip code and town.
The indication of the country of production may be abbreviated if an abbreviation
according to the ISO 2 code from the list of countries for foreign trade statistics in the utility tariff in the version dated January 1, 2015 is used. Abbreviations may only be used for countries recognized by Switzerland.
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Nicole_MigrosandFredericaIunderstand that it is difficult to provide evidence for semi-finished and finished products with their many components and that you then have to work with percentages. Nor did I want to address foreign seeds or fertilizers.
With regard to the frozen products mentioned, I was only concerned with 2 questions:
1) Grown domestically or by Swiss farmers in their fields near the border abroad ?
2) Preserved, packaged and stored in Switzerland?
I am now assuming that the imprint with the Swiss cross "von hier- Schweizerkreuz - d'ici, da qui. " refers to point 1) .... and the label "Elaboré en Suisse" rather to point 2).... otherwise you wouldn't have to affix both... ;-)
.... OR if it only says "Elaboré en Suisse", this ONLY means that the products are preserved, packaged and stored in Switzerland and in no way that these products grown in Switzerland are also from here... ! or am I misunderstanding this ?
P.S. I am only a consumer - not a farmer!
Guest
If the country of origin has to be declared on the packaging, why isn't it also done on the Internet (LeShop, Migipedia etc.)?
Hello @wef17
Here is a further explanation of when the Swiss cross and when "elaboré en Suisse" is used on packaging:
Only processed products that have undergone their main processing step in Switzerland may bear the Swiss cross. In addition, 80% of the weight of the raw materials available in Switzerland must come from Switzerland. For example: organic peas with carrots. The peas and carrots come from Switzerland and the production takes place in Switzerland.
In the case of labeling with elaboré en Suisse without further labeling of the origin of the ingredients, the end product is either produced entirely in Switzerland or has obtained its characteristic properties in Switzerland. The ingredients may come from other countries of origin.
Kind regards
Nicole
Guest
Thank youNicole_Migros- I can now assess the value of the "élabore en Suisse" label for frozen agricultural products and will focus more on sea fish products or pizzas with eggplants :-))
I am pleased with the 80% weight of the Swiss cross, which clearly defines the origin.
For fresh products, it's even easier if you read the name of the producer....
Guest
What about canned cream, for example? It says "Origin: Elaboré en Belgique" and the Swiss cross? Do special regulations apply here?
Dear @daria2 and @wef17
I have received feedback from our quality management. The guidelines are as follows:
"The indication of the country of production is mandatory in Switzerland. The country of production is declared after the note: elabore en:xxx. on the packaging.
A foodstuff is considered to have been produced in a country if it has either been produced entirely in that country or has been processed in that country in such a way that it has retained its characteristic properties.
According to the law, the origin of the raw materials must be declared if the proportion of the raw material exceeds 50% by mass and the presentation of the product gives the impression that the ingredient has an origin that is not the case. Migros also voluntarily declares the origin of mono-products and meat and meat products with at least 20% meat content.
Only processed products in which at least 80% of the weight of the raw materials available in Switzerland originate from Switzerland and which have undergone the main processing step in Switzerland may bear the Swiss cross."
I hope this helps you both. I will be happy to answer any further questions you may have.
Best regards and have a nice afternoon, Nicole
@gruenelinsen
@Nicole_Migroshasdiscussed it.
or
in the Ordinance of the FDHA on information on foodstuffs
(LIV) 817.022.16.
Art. 15 Indication of the country of production
A foodstuff is deemed to have been produced in a country if it was
The following are deemed to have been produced entirely in a country
A foodstuff is deemed to have been sufficiently prepared or processed in this country if it has been processed in this country in such a way that it has thereby acquired its
characteristic properties or a new product name.
Instead of a country of production, a superordinate geographical area such as "EU" or "South America" can be indicated for processed foods.
With regard to the indication of the country of production, sliced mixed products
and honey mixtures are considered processed foods.
In the case of fishery products caught at sea, the catch area in accordance with Annex 4 must be indicated instead of the country of production.
The country of production may be omitted if it is evident from the product description or from the address in accordance with Article 3 paragraph 1 letter g. The minimum requirement for this address is the indication of the country, zip code and town.
The indication of the country of production may be abbreviated if an abbreviation
according to the ISO 2 code from the list of countries for foreign trade statistics in the utility tariff in the version dated January 1, 2015 is used. Abbreviations may only be used for countries recognized by Switzerland.
Guest
Nicole_MigrosandFredericaIunderstand that it is difficult to provide evidence for semi-finished and finished products with their many components and that you then have to work with percentages. Nor did I want to address foreign seeds or fertilizers.
With regard to the frozen products mentioned, I was only concerned with 2 questions:
1) Grown domestically or by Swiss farmers in their fields near the border abroad ?
2) Preserved, packaged and stored in Switzerland?
I am now assuming that the imprint with the Swiss cross "von hier- Schweizerkreuz - d'ici, da qui. " refers to point 1) .... and the label "Elaboré en Suisse" rather to point 2).... otherwise you wouldn't have to affix both... ;-)
.... OR if it only says "Elaboré en Suisse", this ONLY means that the products are preserved, packaged and stored in Switzerland and in no way that these products grown in Switzerland are also from here... ! or am I misunderstanding this ?
P.S. I am only a consumer - not a farmer!
Guest
If the country of origin has to be declared on the packaging, why isn't it also done on the Internet (LeShop, Migipedia etc.)?
Hello @wef17
Here is a further explanation of when the Swiss cross and when "elaboré en Suisse" is used on packaging:
Only processed products that have undergone their main processing step in Switzerland may bear the Swiss cross. In addition, 80% of the weight of the raw materials available in Switzerland must come from Switzerland. For example: organic peas with carrots. The peas and carrots come from Switzerland and the production takes place in Switzerland.
In the case of labeling with elaboré en Suisse without further labeling of the origin of the ingredients, the end product is either produced entirely in Switzerland or has obtained its characteristic properties in Switzerland. The ingredients may come from other countries of origin.
Kind regards
Nicole
Guest
Thank youNicole_Migros- I can now assess the value of the "élabore en Suisse" label for frozen agricultural products and will focus more on sea fish products or pizzas with eggplants :-))
I am pleased with the 80% weight of the Swiss cross, which clearly defines the origin.
For fresh products, it's even easier if you read the name of the producer....
Guest
What about canned cream, for example? It says "Origin: Elaboré en Belgique" and the Swiss cross? Do special regulations apply here?
