Generation promise of "sustainable fish" fulfilled?

Generation-Versprechen "Nachhaltiger Fisch" erfüllt?

I was delighted to hear that Migros has already fulfilled its promise to only sell fish from sustainable fisheries by 2020. But is this really the case?

https://generation-m.migros.ch/de/versprechen/fische-versprechen/status-versprechen-fisch.html

I came across the fact that fish and seafood on Finizza pizzas do not carry the MSC label more by chance when I recently ate a pizza I bought in the spring and wanted to replenish my stock during the last promotion. The freezer compartment with the Finizza Frutti di Mare was empty, so I checked the availability and discovered that this pizza had disappeared from almost all branches in the region. This prompted me to ask the Infoline and they have since replied:

https://migipedia.migros.ch/de/finizza-frutti-di-mare#qanda-559177

Quite apart from the fact that these standard phrases in the replies amuse me every time (there's no point getting annoyed about them), they didn't answer all my questions, so I'll be more specific here:

When does Migros intend to add MSC-certified fish to the toppings on the Finizza "Frutti die Mare" and "Tonno"? In my opinion, only then would the Generation M promise be fulfilled.

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All replies (21)

HirschiS

I know a lot about fish and there are also fish and seafood that are not MSC certified but are still sustainable.
You always have to differentiate - and certification takes a few years. Fisheries from conversion are already operating at MSC level, but do not yet have the label.

I don't know about your pizza, but that could be an explanation.

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Guest

Dear @Federwolke

The toppings on the Finizza pizza already meet our promise that the clay and frutti di mare come from sustainable fisheries.
We consider all products that are either MSC, ASC or Migros Bio certified or are classified as recommended or acceptable according to the WWF to be sustainable.
Find out more here:http://www.wwf.ch/de/aktiv/besser_leben/ratgeber/fische___meeresfruchte/.
As of October 1, 2016, however, all of our fresh, frozen and canned products come from sustainable fisheries.

I hope this answer helps you.
Best regards, Simone

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Federwolke

Thank you very much for your answers. That doesn't really convince me. An MSC label would be more trustworthy, especially as Migros offers tuna and seafood from MSC-certified fisheries. So why not use these ingredients for the pizzas and declare them as such?

For the time being, however, I don't have to worry about it, as the pizzas currently available are out of my reach. Today I looked in a large store in Bern: The space on the frozen food shelf is still reserved for Finizza Frutti di Mare, and the words "delivery interruption" have since been added next to the price tag. The information provided by the Infoline was therefore incorrect or poorly researched - unfortunately not the first time. Swallowing and incomplete standard answers are simply written more quickly. Each time I am more and more unclear about the purpose of this infoline...

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moz79

The oceans are overfished. There's not really much more to say

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Guest

"Overfishing poses a greater threat to the world's oceans than previously thought:

If the 2016 study by Pauly & Zeller (published in "Nature Communications") is to be believed, overfishing is even more serious than previously assumed. The catch estimates of the two scientists are more than fifty percent higher than the official figures of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO).

According to Pauly & Zeller, the considerable difference can be explained by the fact that the FAO only includes figures for fish brought ashore in its calculations. This means that the entire by-catch is forgotten. Everything that ends up in the net and is thrown back into the sea dead is therefore not counted by the FAO. All recreational fishing and illegal fishing are also neglected in the FAO's estimate." http://www.nachhaltigleben.ch/1-blog/3926-schweizer-detailhaendler-setzen-auf-nachhaltigen-fisch

It's not just about eating only "sustainable" fish, but reducing consumption as much as possible or, ideally, stopping it altogether.

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Guest

Migros only wants to prevent sales of fish from falling. If Migros were really committed to the oceans in a sustainable way, it would not continue to promote sales with such hypocritical labels. From Migros' point of view, such labels are nothing more than a sales strategy to trivialize such terrible methods of industrial fishing.

To the by-catch:
https://www.greenpeace.de/themen/meere/beifang
https://www.greenpeace.de/fischereimonster

Video Greenpeace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujXzePTIJQ

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Guest

The pollock fishery in Alaska was awarded MSC certification despite numerous court decisions in Alaska finding that the fishery did not comply with national fisheries management laws: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Stewardship_Council#Kritik

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Guest

The MSC label is actually intended to indicate to consumers that fish has been caught sustainably. However, this is not the case for some stocks.

It seems that Migros' mackerel is also affected! An MSC spokesperson explains why fishing is simply continuing despite this: https://youtu.be/VRe9RJe9ka4?t=2m32s

Migros will probably simply excuse itself by saying that it relies on the MSC so that it can continue to advertise its "sustainable fish range"!

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Guest

14.12.2016 - With their decisions, the fisheries ministers have set the course for a successful fishing year in 2017. The marine conservation organization Oceana, however, criticized the decisions for the northeast Atlantic in particular. "Half of the fish stocks in the Atlantic are already overfished. This will continue in 2017," said Oceana director Lasse Gustavsson. http://www.fr-online.de/wirtschaft/fangquote-mehr-seelachs-fuer-fischer,1472780,35010962.html27.12.2016- The sixgill shark that was found dead on the coast of El Molinar in Palma on Sunday may have been killed by fishermen on the high seas. This assumption was made by Juan Poyatos, a shark expert and author on Mallorca, to the daily newspaper Ultima Hora. http://mallorcamagazin.com/nachrichten/lokales/2016/12/27/52006/war-der-hai-von-fischern-getotet-worden.html

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Guest

Mysterious fish mass extinction puzzles researchers:

https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/umwelt/article160739743/Mysterioeses-Fisch-Massensterben-stellt-Forscher-vor-Raetsel.html

Mystery surrounding hundreds of thousands of dead herring:

http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/new-york/irrer-toetet-hunderttausende-heringe-48764416.bild.html

Measures indefinitely:

http://orf.at/stories/2354650/2354649

Organic farmed fish more contaminated:

This is probably not how you imagine organic salmon farming: A metal tank with a long plastic pipe, mass vaccinations in a truck trailer and processing on a conveyor belt with thousands of fish. But this is exactly what journalists from the French program "Thalassa" from France 3, in collaboration with the magazine of the same name, found during their research.

Paradoxically, the toxins are higher precisely because of the conditions of the organic label, explains "24 Heures". The food in conventional salmon farms is mainly plant-based, while the food in organic farms consists mainly of oils and parts of smaller fish. Although these come from sustainable fishing, they come from the sea - and the seas themselves are polluted nowadays. "The pollution rises up the food chain and ends up on our plates," summarizes the newspaper.

http://www.20min.ch/wissen/news/story/31277491

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