Chargeable parking space management at Migros

Gebührenpflichtige Parkplatzbewirtschaftung bei Migros

Guest

I would be happy if Migros had a more customer-friendly form of parking management, similar to that of the cities and municipalities, where you have access to the parking garages or parking spaces closed off by barriers with a badge and are debited monthly or paid in advance.
In our cashless age, I find it tedious to spend minutes rubbing the last 50 at the parking payment machine just so that they don't keep falling through.

Another solution for the ticket system would be to pay the parking fee together with the purchase at the checkout or self-scanning/self-checkout payment station. This shouldn't be a problem, as Migros supermarkets are only subtenants of the Migros regional companies in the real estate department... or to put it another way: internal charging.

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Dragonball

I agree with you about the coins, but it is usually not up to Migros whether the parking garage has to be paid for, but the municipality.

In addition, Migros is a tenant rather than an owner in most stores. Ownership only makes sense in the exclusive corners of Switzerland...

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pogonox

it's already disgusting when i have to pay money to spend money!

you can probably thank the VCS for that - pathological hatred of cars leads to things like that.

in the meantime i've reached the point where i'd rather drive x kilometers than drive into a parking garage....

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Frederica

New attempt by @Tessin on this topic. See: Paid parking management by Migros and cashless payment for paid parking spaces...

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Guest

@Frederica: Yes, after a break of almost a year, I'm taking the liberty of trying again - sorry
It also has to do with an accumulation of negative experiences in one day. My last 50 was not accepted by the machine, even though I rubbed it warm (it wasn't a 5-rapper ;-) ) I went back and got the minimum amount of 20 CHF from the ATM. This note was then probably accepted, but I received a huge amount of coins, which I had to stow away in my small wallet: return money 3* 5Fr. piece, 4* 1Fr. piece and 1*50Rp piece... While it was jingling like in a gambling hall, someone was banging his fist on the machine next to it because somehow the money wouldn't fall through....
@pogonox: Right - it's an age-old thing that was decided politically at the ballot box... over 300 parking spaces = parking lot management. But I'm not complaining because of this situation - 50Rp/h would be bearable for me - but because it didn't work with my last 50 cash that I took with me especially for this purpose, because I pay by card... 30 years ago this would not have been an issue.
@EEnergy: Most of the time I hear that the property can be assigned to the Migros Eastern Switzerland Real Estate department (as can be seen from the posters when looking for a tenant for sales space), but that the parking lot management has been outsourced privately. Apparently this whole coin-operated management is more cost-effective....

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vollundganz

Fortunately, the parking spaces at Migros are still free where I live. :-)

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Guest

In my region (western Switzerland), parking spaces are fortunately still free, at least for the first hour or so in parking garages. And even in neighboring France, nobody would think of charging for parking in a supermarket parking lot. Hey, these are your customers!

50 Rp/hour from the first hour, payable only at coin-operated machines, is really just stupid bureaucracy. I would guess it costs more to collect than it earns.

A cheeky (but effective) trick if the machine is acting up again or doesn't take cards: drive to the exit barrier, push the ticket in - the barrier doesn't open of course - press the help button and naively say something about "doesn't work, don't know why". Then they open the barrier manually to avoid a traffic jam ;-)

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M-Infoline

Hello @Tessin, thank you for your comments. I will clarify the situation with the cooperative responsible. Please let me know which region you buy from. Best regards, Heidi

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Guest

@M-Infoline
It concerns the St. Gallen Rhine Valley - i.e. Migros Eastern Switzerland.
-- Pizolpark and Rheinpark are badly solved .... when I think that the same operator Skidata in Säntispark also allows credit cards as a payment method. I seriously ask myself: all this coin management in CHF and banknote management in CHF and EUR is certainly more expensive than credit cards... In addition, the fact that these shopping centers at border locations discourage everyone across the Rhine: these customers have to use EUR notes for the parking lot and then get an infinite number of CHF coins just to be able to pay the 50 centimes parking fee.
-- Altstätten SG and Buchs SG have a satisfactory solution, because at least 1.5 or 2 free hours are offered and in practically all cases this "payment circus" is no longer necessary.
-- Rorschach is very well solved, because despite the 1 hour for 1.60 you can enter with a badge - by the way, the same badge that you can use for all parking garages and parking areas in St. Gallen and many other cities and municipalities in Rorschach - Zurich - Basel - Lausanne and Lugano. Because of its location in the city center, Rorschach is not frequented by customers from abroad by car.

It would be nice if Migros could finally offer a customer-friendly solution. You can't just stand idly by because of this legal parking management (which is the way it is).

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Traberli

I have the solution for you - emigrate to Sweden! ?

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All this coin management in CHF and banknote management in CHF and EUR is certainly more expensive than credit cards...

Exactly perfect. 100% control of where and what is paid.
Pure surveillance. And if it doesn't work - what then?
How to pay if the technology fails?
Then the whole thing is super secure I suppose. If you get caught, identity stolen...

No, I think cash is very important. And I don't mind going shopping with my normal wallet.

You don't need a parking fee for public transport either? Or do you have so many big purchases?
Ah E-bike with trailer is also brilliant. I get a lot out of it.

So getting upset about the parking machine really doesn't help.

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Cinderella1925

@ those from the Eastern Switzerland Cooperative: in addition to cash and credit cards, you can also pay by text message these days. I don't have a cell phone myself, but if tickets and donations for good causes can be paid for via SMS, it should also be possible for parking fees. Who knows, it might be a cheaper solution than the other options.

@Traberli:"You don't need a parking fee for public transport either? ."

It's no better with public transport. Just today (meanwhile yesterday) I lost money again. I actually like to walk to Migros on the way there and take the bus on the way back (uphill) if my shopping is too heavy. The problem is that there are no ticket machines at all at the bus stop in front of Migros in my direction. Today I wanted to treat myself to the outward journey by bus and take a two-hour zone ticket but... after I had inserted the change and was still missing 2 francs, the slot for two-franc coins was blocked (as is unfortunately very often the case). Neither by pressing the return button nor by pressing the stop button on the display did the money come back. When the bus arrived, the driver also tried and then told me that the money was lost.

If I had a car, the first half hour of parking at Migros would be free, and for longer stays you can pay by coin or credit card, even contactless.

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