Recently, Total stain removers are no longer sold in the previously easily recyclable cardboard box but in bulky plastic tins. This contradicts Migros' own sustainability guidelines (Generation M) to sell fewer products in plastic packaging in future. The extreme price increase from CHF 4.90 to CHF 13.95 for one kilogram of stain remover is also striking.
Recently, Total stain removers are no longer sold in the previously easily recyclable cardboard box but in bulky plastic tins. This contradicts Migros' own sustainability guidelines (Generation M) to sell fewer products in plastic packaging in future. The extreme price increase from CHF 4.90 to CHF 13.95 for one kilogram of stain remover is also striking.
The plastic lobby packaging experts have come up with the same nonsense: https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/500153200000-archived-1 https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/500153000000-archived-1
The plastic lobby packaging experts have come up with the same nonsense: https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/500153200000-archived-1 https://migipedia.migros.ch/en/500153000000-archived-1
Wow, the new price is steep! And then there's the superfluous packaging. Once again, I swear by the good old bar of gall soap. It lasts forever, is cheap and removes really stubborn stains.
Are there actually any answers from the official Migros side here or are customers simply allowed to get upset among themselves about such unspeakable things from the Migros people?
Are there actually any answers from the official Migros side here or are customers simply allowed to get upset among themselves about such unspeakable things from the Migros people?
Migros is already answering, but you have to give the M-Infoline a LITTLE TIME. They have a lot of inquiries and the clarifications take time.
Migros is already answering, but you have to give the M-Infoline a LITTLE TIME. They have a lot of inquiries and the clarifications take time.
ok - then I'm reassured :-)
Hello roserens, thank you for your contribution. The Total Oxi powder has already been replaced by the M-Budget Oxi powder in 2021. Both products have a price per kilo of CHF 4.90. The switch to the cup was made because the powder is better protected by the resealable bucket and therefore has a better effect. With cardboard packaging, the risk of the powder clumping together due to moisture is much higher than with plastic packaging. The largest part of the ecological footprint (approx. 90 %) of this product is the powder itself and not the packaging. You can also dispose of the bucket at a plastic collection point so that it can be recycled. Kind regards, Matteo
Hello roserens, thank you for your contribution. The Total Oxi powder has already been replaced by the M-Budget Oxi powder in 2021. Both products have a price per kilo of CHF 4.90. The switch to the cup was made because the powder is better protected by the resealable bucket and therefore has a better effect. With cardboard packaging, the risk of the powder clumping together due to moisture is much higher than with plastic packaging. The largest part of the ecological footprint (approx. 90 %) of this product is the powder itself and not the packaging. You can also dispose of the bucket at a plastic collection point so that it can be recycled. Kind regards, Matteo
Hi Matteo Thank you for your answer, but it doesn't really convince me. In your own "Generation M" sustainability rules, you promise to use less plastic for packaging in future. https://corporate.migros.ch/de/nachhaltigkeit/plastik-verpackungen/unsere-fortschritte/umweltfreundliche-verpackungen.html The fact that you then replace easily recyclable cardboard packaging made from renewable raw materials with a thick plastic container made from fossil petroleum products is totally incomprehensible to me and contradicts Migros' own intentions.
Couldn't you at least use smart packaging with a thin plastic inside and a stabilizing cardboard outside, as Migros is already doing successfully with its yoghurts and its detergent competitors have long since implemented? https://www.neue-verpackung.de/non-food-chemie/verpackungen-aus-karton-kunststoff-mit-50-prozent-r-pp-225.html I expect a company like Migros, with its ambitious sustainability strategy, to try to achieve its ambitious goals and not just greenwash them.
Wow, the new price is steep! And then there's the superfluous packaging. Once again, I swear by the good old bar of gall soap. It lasts forever, is cheap and removes really stubborn stains.
Are there actually any answers from the official Migros side here or are customers simply allowed to get upset among themselves about such unspeakable things from the Migros people?
Are there actually any answers from the official Migros side here or are customers simply allowed to get upset among themselves about such unspeakable things from the Migros people?
Migros is already answering, but you have to give the M-Infoline a LITTLE TIME. They have a lot of inquiries and the clarifications take time.
Migros is already answering, but you have to give the M-Infoline a LITTLE TIME. They have a lot of inquiries and the clarifications take time.
ok - then I'm reassured :-)
Hello roserens, thank you for your contribution. The Total Oxi powder has already been replaced by the M-Budget Oxi powder in 2021. Both products have a price per kilo of CHF 4.90. The switch to the cup was made because the powder is better protected by the resealable bucket and therefore has a better effect. With cardboard packaging, the risk of the powder clumping together due to moisture is much higher than with plastic packaging. The largest part of the ecological footprint (approx. 90 %) of this product is the powder itself and not the packaging. You can also dispose of the bucket at a plastic collection point so that it can be recycled. Kind regards, Matteo
Hello roserens, thank you for your contribution. The Total Oxi powder has already been replaced by the M-Budget Oxi powder in 2021. Both products have a price per kilo of CHF 4.90. The switch to the cup was made because the powder is better protected by the resealable bucket and therefore has a better effect. With cardboard packaging, the risk of the powder clumping together due to moisture is much higher than with plastic packaging. The largest part of the ecological footprint (approx. 90 %) of this product is the powder itself and not the packaging. You can also dispose of the bucket at a plastic collection point so that it can be recycled. Kind regards, Matteo
Hi Matteo Thank you for your answer, but it doesn't really convince me. In your own "Generation M" sustainability rules, you promise to use less plastic for packaging in future. https://corporate.migros.ch/de/nachhaltigkeit/plastik-verpackungen/unsere-fortschritte/umweltfreundliche-verpackungen.html The fact that you then replace easily recyclable cardboard packaging made from renewable raw materials with a thick plastic container made from fossil petroleum products is totally incomprehensible to me and contradicts Migros' own intentions.
Couldn't you at least use smart packaging with a thin plastic inside and a stabilizing cardboard outside, as Migros is already doing successfully with its yoghurts and its detergent competitors have long since implemented? https://www.neue-verpackung.de/non-food-chemie/verpackungen-aus-karton-kunststoff-mit-50-prozent-r-pp-225.html I expect a company like Migros, with its ambitious sustainability strategy, to try to achieve its ambitious goals and not just greenwash them.
