Buy stickers for the surprise package

Sticker fürs Überraschungspaket kaufen

Guest

9 years ago

Hello

At the beginning of last week, I noticed that someone was selling stickers for the surprise package on a regular basis. In principle, this is not forbidden and so I ordered some. Despite a glitch with the delivery, I received the stickers I ordered, but I found it strange that the seller was offering more and more of them, as he had sold several thousand in the meantime. To get so many stickers, he would have had to buy them for over 100,000 francs, which I didn't think was likely and suspected that the stickers had been stolen.

After almost endless attempts, I managed to report the whole thing to Migros, but nothing happened. To date, this salesman has sold well over 30,000 stickers, which corresponds to a Migros purchase volume of over 600,000 Swiss francs. Migros has been informed since 29.1.16, but apparently nothing is being done about it, because the seller keeps launching new offers. Why is that?

If you catch a shoplifter who has pocketed something for a few francs, it's not unusual for him to be picked up by the police. But with a loss of over half a million, nothing happens, why?

Migi piglet

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Guest

9 years ago

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Hello@deactivated user

Thank you for your message. This is definitely not the idea behind the stickers.

Can you tell me who you contacted with this information? And where the stickers are offered for sale? I am also looking into this myself.

Kind regards
Tanja

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moz79

9 years ago

Hello Migi Piglet

Very good question! It's quite a thing. And all that effort for parcels containing conventional products.

Quite a while ago there was a case with vouchers and the blue receipts. I think there was an intervention.

I think it's good that you discovered this and reported it. I don't quite understand why you bought some. How expensive were they?

At Migros Zollikofen, the stamps are often simply passed on from customer to customer if someone doesn't need them.

Greez moz

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Guest

9 years ago

Hello

@Tanja
The stickers are offered at Ricado.ch.
As it was impossible to reach someone responsible at Migros Genossenschafts-Bund, I spoke to the helpline on 29.1.16, but the operator didn't get everything right. So I kept on calling and finally got through to Mr. Balsiger at the cooperative in Lucerne. He said he would take care of it and inform the right office. Last Friday, I sent him an e-mail describing everything again, giving him the name, address and account number of the seller and sending him a PDF file with all the offers I had found so far. I sent him an updated list on 2.2.16, to which he replied that CUMULUS was still looking for evidence. I don't understand why nothing has been done so far.
Just file a complaint with the police and have the seller blocked by Ricardo, it can't be that difficult, after all, 30,000 privately sold stamps certainly justify the suspicion of theft.

@moz79
When I bought "my" Märkli on 26.1.16, the seller had just 30 positive reviews and at 10.- per 20 Märkli I thought I was getting a bargain. I only became suspicious when there was a problem with the delivery and I contacted the seller by phone. He had only sent a part because he got mixed up with the number of orders. I found this strange because I couldn't imagine that a few Ricardo sales could be too much for him. I then checked all his offers and the ratings. I discovered that up until then he had only sold Migros stickers - around 5000 of them. By Friday afternoon, he had already sold around 8000. Currently, with the rated sales and current offers, he has sold over 23,000 stickers and with all his sales extrapolated even over 30,000.

Trading or passing on discount stamps of any kind is not prohibited, provided they have been acquired legally. But if you (even unknowingly) buy stolen goods, you are guilty of receiving stolen goods, quite apart from the fact that you have been defrauded.
Migros is also suffering another embarrassing loss, as in previous years it has either run out of stickers or packets during the Ü-Paket campaign. This year will certainly not be any different, with thousands of packages being taken away and many more packages being collected than Migros had officially handed out at the tills. So far there have been over 1500 packages, i.e. something between 12 and 15 euro pallets. I couldn't calculate like that and in the end there will be a lot of angry customers who won't be able to get their hands on a parcel. They will then (rightly) complain about Migros again because they can't even manage their own promotions professionally.

Migi piglets

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Guest

9 years ago

the same here

http://www.tutti.ch/ganze-schweiz?q=migros+sticker

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Guest

9 years ago

Hello Tiger

I don't know if it's the same with Tutti. Trading in "normal household quantities" is not the problem either, there are offers like that everywhere. But at Ricardo there are not only the usual offers, but also at least one supplier who sells tens of thousands of stickers. Where does he get this quantity if they are not stolen?
You get a maximum of 10 stickers (15 at Migros Lucerne) per purchase in the supermarket. There are no stickers at specialist stores such as M-Electronics, Obi, Migrol etc.

Migi piglet

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Guest

9 years ago

...either way, I don't think it's right that it is still being sold

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Guest

9 years ago

Hello@deactivated user

I can well understand your anger and disappointment. I have now also informed the people responsible for the campaign. Unfortunately, there are cases like this with every campaign and we keep a close eye on them. Unfortunately, it is not always possible to take measures overnight, but we are taking care of it.

Kind regards
Tanja

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Guest

9 years ago

Hello Tanja

How much longer are you going to watch? Every day more people fall into the trap and make themselves liable to prosecution: Buying stolen goods is a criminal offense and Migros can demand compensation from every single buyer. What's more, everyone gets a hefty fine and has a criminal record. IGNORANCE IS NO DEFENSE AGAINST PUNISHMENT!

The sales clerk always tells the story that the whole shooting club is involved in collecting and that Migros cashiers also hoard the stickers that customers have rejected. However, no member of the Rotkreuz small-bore marksmen's club is known by the name of the sales clerk and they don't have that many members. I asked at two Migros branches and was told that the sales assistants are NOT allowed to keep rejected stickers and use them for themselves. If one does this, she will be dismissed without notice.

@all buyers at Ricardo
Demand your money back from the seller if you can't produce a receipt for the stickers. Go to the customer service department of the nearest Migros and hand in the purchased stickers in exchange for a receipt/confirmation, unless it can be proven that the seller was the legal owner of the stickers before the sale. Otherwise, criminal proceedings may await you.

It is irresponsible that Migros is still doing nothing after more than a week.

Migi piglets

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Guest

9 years ago

Hello

In the meantime, with almost 40,000 stamps sold, the damage amounts to around 800,000 francs. The prices have also fallen, down to 6.25 francs for 20 Märkli or per Ü package. But Migros is still doing nothing.
You could almost think that it is Migros itself that is selling the stickers and that nothing is happening as a result. In principle, Migros would still be making a profit if it were to receive even one five-franc coin per package.

Greetings from a very disappointed
Migi piglet

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Guest

9 years ago

Hello

As I was recently informed by the MGB, they have also been tracking the sales of this vendor. However, apparently no missing stickers were reported and they did not come close to the amount I found. I was also assured that I could collect the stickers I had bought from Migros and would not have to expect any legal consequences. This was already too late for me, as I had already returned the stickers by then.

As it would not have been impossible for errors to have crept into my notes, I immediately checked everything again, but found no errors or duplicates. In the almost 92% of all offers from this seller, a total of over 48,000 stickers were demonstrably sold by 12.2.16. To purchase this quantity legitimately, you would have had to buy almost CHF 970,000 from Migros. With 50 helpers, each individual would have made 106 purchases since January 19 and thus spent over CHF 21,000. Imagine the volume of purchases of this magnitude. ?

As the over-package campaign was still in full swing at the time of the MGB's announcement, I spoke to other Ricardo users. Some asked the seller for receipts and receipts after the purchase, but never received or saw any. There were also some who could have reassembled the sticker strips supplied into long strips. So the stickers often came from the same roll, which is rather unlikely with actual purchases. Well, I think Migros was robbed of a million, but I have a lot of evidence but no solid proof. I regret not having so much space, because for a million you could steal three or four Migros articulated lorries including the load and driver. ?

In the last few days, the supplier in question also lowered the prices. It was possible to get 80 stickers for CHF 15 or even several times that amount. At some Migros branches, however, the last packages were already gone on Saturday. Instead, you got a CHF 20 shopping voucher, for which you would have paid only CHF 3.75. :-) With a discount of over 80%, I still prefer to buy from Migros. Next year I'm going to get some of those cheap vouchers, because if Migros puts up with it, it's no longer so much "my" Migros. ?

Greetings from the yellow Migi piglet

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