The movie Seaspiracy is shocking (Netflix). The sustainability labels come off very badly. What does migros do? I have confidence in Swiss fish, all the others...?
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Bodenseeknusperli
If you want to read through threads about this topic until Migros answers you, here's one (with links to others) because you're not alone :) https://migipedia.migros.ch/de/forum/msc-label-und-generell-nachhaltigkeit-des?backtoboard=q%3DMsc%26p%3D1%26sort%3Dlast_activity&reply=3e9df5a0-a8f7-11eb-9f4a-4754e0fe8429
thanks bodenseeknusperli... it was to be expected that not only i would deal with this topic....
Hello and thank you for opening a new thread. We are happy to comment on this. We base the selection of our products on the assessments of the WWF, which classifies all our products as either "acceptable" or "recommendable". The WWF carries out independent assessments of each product. Migros explicitly does not source any products from the fisheries criticized in the film. According to WWF, the majority of our product range is sustainable. Around 70% of our wild-caught range is MSC-certified. MSC is still the strictest standard in the world for sustainable wild-caught fish. However, Migros also believes that the standard needs to be continuously developed and improved. That is why we are actively involved with MSC and propose improvement measures. In particular, we are campaigning for fishing methods to be given greater consideration in the certification process. I would also like to answer your question in the title "Is there such a thing as sustainable fish": fish stocks can regenerate and grow back to a healthy size if they are fished sustainably. There are examples of stocks that were already close to collapse but were able to recover thanks to sustainable fishing policies and fishing. For example, the Namibian hake, which was overfished for years by foreign fleets off West Africa, but recovered relatively quickly when fishing rights were changed and is now fished sustainably and with the MSC seal. Studies also show that fish stocks that are fished sustainably are much more productive in the long term than overfished stocks. This means that sustainable stocks generate more new fish that can then be fished. As a result, sustainable fishing also provides more fish to feed the world's growing population. Kind regards Marc
Here is the statement from oceancare.ch, they have their office in Wädenswil, where you can also call or email them with questions. The fact is: the situation in the oceans is bad, you can't argue it away, even if there has perhaps been a minimal improvement. https://www.oceancare.org/de/unsere-arbeit/tierschutz/fische/ https://www.oceancare.org/de/unsere-arbeit/tierschutz/fische/fischkonsum/ The best thing is to stop eating fish altogether, because then you don't have to have a guilty conscience, I can only recommend it. Consumers have that choice! The more people who do so, the better. Kind regards
Marc_Migros
Hello and thank you for opening a new thread. We are happy to comment on this. We base the selection of our products on the assessments of the WWF, which classifies all our products as either "acceptable" or "recommendable". The WWF carries out independent assessments of each product. Migros explicitly does not source any products from the fisheries criticized in the film. According to WWF, the majority of our product range is sustainable. Around 70% of our wild-caught range is MSC-certified. MSC is still the strictest standard in the world for sustainable wild-caught fish. However, Migros also believes that the standard needs to be continuously developed and improved. That is why we are actively involved with MSC and propose improvement measures. In particular, we are campaigning for fishing methods to be given greater consideration in the certification process. I would also like to answer your question in the title "Is there such a thing as sustainable fish": fish stocks can regenerate and grow back to a healthy size if they are fished sustainably. There are examples of stocks that were already close to collapse but were able to recover thanks to sustainable fishing policies and fishing. For example, the Namibian hake, which was overfished for years by foreign fleets off West Africa, but recovered relatively quickly when fishing rights were changed and is now fished sustainably and with the MSC seal. Studies also show that fish stocks that are fished sustainably are much more productive in the long term than overfished stocks. This means that sustainable stocks generate more new fish that can then be fished. As a result, sustainable fishing also provides more fish to feed the world's growing population. Kind regards Marc
Hi Marc_Migros Very interesting points. I am interested in sustainable fishing and have lost confidence in labels such as MSC due to the documentary "Seaspiracy". That's why I've always been a bit disappointed when I've seen this at Migros, so the studies mentioned (new fish are generated) would be very exciting. Are these available as published independent studies? Is it possible to read this somewhere - apart from the websites of the labels themselves? Kind regards and thank you
mira8000
Hi Marc_Migros Very interesting points. I am interested in sustainable fishing and have lost confidence in labels such as MSC due to the documentary "Seaspiracy". That's why I've always been a bit disappointed when I've seen this at Migros, so the studies mentioned (new fish are generated) would be very exciting. Are these available as published independent studies? Is it possible to read this somewhere - apart from the websites of the labels themselves? Kind regards and thank you
Hi Mira8000 One such platform, for example, is https://www.fischbestaende-online.de/ Best regards, Marc
Marc_Migros
Hello and thank you for opening a new thread. We are happy to comment on this. We base the selection of our products on the assessments of the WWF, which classifies all our products as either "acceptable" or "recommendable". The WWF carries out independent assessments of each product. Migros explicitly does not source any products from the fisheries criticized in the film. According to WWF, the majority of our product range is sustainable. Around 70% of our wild-caught range is MSC-certified. MSC is still the strictest standard in the world for sustainable wild-caught fish. However, Migros also believes that the standard needs to be continuously developed and improved. That is why we are actively involved with MSC and propose improvement measures. In particular, we are campaigning for fishing methods to be given greater consideration in the certification process. I would also like to answer your question in the title "Is there such a thing as sustainable fish": fish stocks can regenerate and grow back to a healthy size if they are fished sustainably. There are examples of stocks that were already close to collapse but were able to recover thanks to sustainable fishing policies and fishing. For example, the Namibian hake, which was overfished for years by foreign fleets off West Africa, but recovered relatively quickly when fishing rights were changed and is now fished sustainably and with the MSC seal. Studies also show that fish stocks that are fished sustainably are much more productive in the long term than overfished stocks. This means that sustainable stocks generate more new fish that can then be fished. As a result, sustainable fishing also provides more fish to feed the world's growing population. Kind regards Marc
Sustainable fishing is not only about the regeneration of fish stocks, but also - as shown in "Seaspiracy" - about how the rest of the biosphere is severely affected by the way we fish. For example, through massive bycatch, damage to the seabed through trawling, plastic pollution of the oceans through plastic nets, etc...